CFJ #1 - Invalid Votes
Called by: Elysion
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: FALSE
Statement:
|
|
Elysion's votes on proposals 300, 301, 302 and 303, and
TeXnocrat's votes on those four proposals are all invalid.
|
Reasons:
|
|
Rule 107/0 states "Valid votes shall be YES, NO or ABSTAIN," which none of
those votes were. Since those votes were invalid by that rule, they could
not have been cast. I suggest that the judge order that the votes be changed
such that the FOR's become YES's and the AGAINSTs become NO's, since both
players obviously intended such votes.
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
According to Rule #107/0 there are only three valid votes
YES, NO, and ABSTAIN. Elysion's votes in question were not of this
nature. Thus they do not qualify as "valid votes", and hence it cannot be
said that Elysion has yet voted on these Proposals. Though there is no
reason for changing the votes in the manner suggested in the call for
judgment, it is this judge's opinion that Elysion may submit a valid vote
on any of the Proposals in question at any time during the Voting Period.
The rule that "votes may not be changed once cast" does not apply to
Elysion in this case for the same reasons as above (he has not yet cast a
valid vote).
TeXnocrat's votes were indeed valid votes (He voted YES or NO on all the
proposals -- check the Mailing List Archive) but were incorrectly recorded
on the web page. His votes must remain as they were cast, since they were
indeed valid to begin with, but should be changed on the web page to be
accurately recorded.
|
History:
|
|
4/2/99 13:35 called by Elysion
4/2/99 13:35 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/2/99 15:14 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/2/99 15:14 judged FALSE by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #2 - Passage of Proposals
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: Caesar
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
Proposals #300,301,303,304,305,306,307, and 308 have all ready
passed.
|
Reasons:
|
|
According to Rule #202 a quorum is currently 3 votes (since there
are 5 eligible voters). Each of the above proposals has received at least
this many. According to Rule #201 a proposal is adopted if and only if
more YES votes were cast than NO votes. All of the above proposals
satisfy this as well. According to Rule #203, an adopted rule-change
takes full effect at the moment of the completion of the vote that adopted
it (with no provision to wait until the end of the voting period).
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
As much as it pains me to see what mischief TeXnocrat
intends to cause with Rule #307, it does meet the standards. Proposals
300 - 308 (not including 302) shall officially become Rules.
|
History:
|
|
4/4/99 18:45 called by TeXnocrat
4/4/99 19:26 assigned to Caesar
4/4/99 20:34 accepted by Caesar
4/4/99 20:34 judged TRUE by Caesar
|
|
|
|
CFJ #3 - Votes on Rules
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Xylen
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
Xylen's votes on proposals #300, 301, 303, 304, 306, and 307 are
valid, even though such proposals have already passed.
|
Reasons:
|
|
As per the ruling in CFJ #2, all proposals #300 through 308, inclusive,
except for #302, have passed. However, rule 108/0 establishes a voting period
of one week, no more, no less. Thus, players can still cast votes on proposals
#300 through 308 if they are otherwise able to.
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
I must admit that my first concern was the wording of the statement. In
it's current form, it is impossible to call it a statement. It is more
truthfully a compounded sentence. "Xylen's votes on proposals #300, 301,
303, 304, 306, and 307 are valid" is a verifiable statement. The phrase
"even though such proposals have already passed" is merely extra
information that does not apply to the truth of the statement. The extra
phrase is merely repetition of the information given in the reasons
section. On that basis, I will render judgment on the statement "Xylen's
votes on proposals #300, 301, 303, 304, 306, and 307 are valid."
By Rule 107, Xylen is a Player, and voted in the proper manner, so
Xylen's votes are valid votes. Rule 108 states "The voting period for a
proposal shall be one week from its distribution. No votes cast after
that time are valid." The implication of the second sentence is that
valid votes cast during the voting period should be counted. Between
these two rules, the votes themselves are valid, and thus they should be
applied to the votes on proposals #301, 301, 303, 304, 306, and 307.
I hereby rule this statement TRUE.
|
History:
|
|
4/5/99 15:47 called by Elysion
4/5/99 15:47 assigned to Vergil
4/8/99 15:32 reassigned to Xylen
4/8/99 23:46 accepted by Xylen
4/9/99 00:29 judged TRUE by Xylen
|
|
|
|
CFJ #4 - Enforcement of Rule #307
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: Xylen
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
Rule #307 is in effect and enforcable until the outcome of CFJ
#3 (which, if judged TRUE will deny Rule #307 rule status).
|
Reason:
|
|
According to the outcome fo CFJ #2, Proposal #307 has been enacted
and is now Rule #307. There are no rules which state that a given rule is
not in effect while a judgment is pending upon the legality of said rule.
Thus, until a judgment upon Rule #307 is stated, it is still in effect.
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
Again, I dislike the form of the statement, but it is better than the
statement in CFJ#3. The phrase "(which, if judged TRUE will deny Rule
#307 rule status)" is commentary, and can be ignored when evaluating the
statement. This is from basic grammar of sentences containing
parenthetical clauses. So the Statement to be judged is "Rule #307 is in
effect and enforceable until the outcome of CFJ #3."
In Terra Nomic there are very few rules that deal with activation of a
rule. Once a proposal has received the proper number of votes, it
becomes a Rule. However, there is nothing dealing with rules that are
challenged.
Rule 211/0 states that "If a statement on which judgment has been called
is judged to be true, and that judgment is not overruled, it does not
thereby become a rule, or any part of a rule. It merely becomes an
explicit part of currently accepted game custom." By this rule, the
statement "Proposals 300, 301, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, and 308 have all
ready passed" does not have the force of a Rule, but merely is gaming
custom.
As a Mere Mortal Judge, I must make my ruling in accordance with
currently existing game customs when there is no specific rules to apply
to a situation. In accordance with that directive, I judge "Rule #307 is
in effect and enforceable until the outcome of CFJ #3." to be TRUE.
(Considering the difficulties of this ruling, it would make sense for a
Rule to be proposed to deal with challenged rules.)
|
History:
|
|
4/5/99 21:25 called by TeXnocrat
4/5/99 22:25 assigned to Vergil
4/8/99 15:32 reassigned to Xylen
4/8/99 23:46 accepted by Xylen
4/9/99 00:59 judged TRUE by Xylen
|
|
|
|
|
CFJ #5 - Is Proposal 307 a Rule?
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Independent Council Caesar
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
Proposal 307 is not a rule.
|
Reason:
|
|
CFJ #2 ruled that proposal 307 is indeed a rule, but
CFJ #3 ruled that Xylen's vote on that proposal, cast after CFJ #2 was
decided, is valid. Rule 201/1 states: "A proposal is adopted if and only
if more YES votes were cast than NO votes, and if quorum was reached."
Quorum was reached by CFJ #2 and still has been, but the first criterium is
now false. Therefore, proposal 307 is not adopted and is not a rule.
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
As Xylen's vote on Proposal #307 was still within the voting
period, the vote is valid. While CFJ #2 was correct to enact 307 as a
rule at that particular moment, Xylen's valid vote revises the
circumstances and thus deprives 307 of rule status.
|
History:
|
|
4/9/99 00:50 called by Elysion
4/9/99 00:50 assigned to Vergil
4/11/99 17:48 reassigned to deGrace
4/15/99 00:10 reassigned to Independent Council Caesar
4/15/99 01:42 judged TRUE by Caesar
|
|
|
|
CFJ #6 - Proposal 325
Called by: Caesar
Judge: None
Judgement: None
Statement:
|
|
Proposal 325 is not a valid proposal and cannot be enacted.
|
Reason:
|
|
Rule 107 is immutable. Altering an immutable rule requires its
own passed proposal, does it not?
|
History:
|
|
4/12/99 19:50 called by Caesar
4/12/99 20:26 assigned to Xylen
4/12/99 20:36 retracted by Caesar
|
|
|
|
CFJ #7 - deGrace's Currency
Called by: Elysion
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
The 20 Gold Coins deGrace owned at the time he ceased to become a player are
the property of the Royal Exchequer.
|
Reason:
|
|
Rule #303/0 reads: "[The] Royal Exchequer... shall own any Gold Coins not
owned by any other entity." deGrace is no longer an entity, therefore the
Royal Exchequer owns the 20 Gold Coins.
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
By Rule 303 The Royal Exchequer shall own any Gold Coins not
ownded by any other entity. deGrace ceased to be an entity when he
exercised his right to quit the game. Therefore the coins which had been
his became unowned by any entity and are thus the property of the Royal
Exchequer.
|
History:
|
|
4/19/99 12:49 called by Elysion
4/19/99 12:49 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/19/99 21:08 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/19/99 21:08 judged TRUE by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #8 - Proposal #329
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: Independent Council Caesar
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
Due to the passage of Prop. #329 with no NO votes, Caesar gets
5 gold coins, and Elysion, TeXnocrat, and Xylen each get 2 gold coins.
|
Reason:
|
|
This is what should result from Rule #327. I suggest that it
applies to the passage of all proposals after Rule #327 went into effect.
This is not a 'retroactive' application of the rule, since the rule
specifically states that it takes effect at the end of a voting period.
|
Chairman's Statement:
|
|
Rule #327/0 took effect immediately, but proposal #329 was opened for voting
at the same time as proposal #327. If rule #327/0 existed, proposal
#327's voting period had ended. But since proposals 327 and 329 had the same
voting period, if proposal #327's voting period had ended, then proposal
#329's voting period had ended. Thus, by a hypothetical syllogism, if rule
#327/0 existed, proposal #329's voting period had ended.
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
Show me the money
|
History:
|
|
4/23/99 15:17 called by TeXnocrat
4/23/99 20:29 assigned to Independent Council Caesar
4/28/99 00:03 judged TRUE by Caesar
|
|
|
|
CFJ #9 - L'etat 1
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #207/1 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #10 - L'etat 2
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #106/0 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #11 - L'etat 3
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #108/0 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #12 - L'etat 4
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #110/0 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #13 - L'etat 5
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #201/3 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #14 - L'etat 6
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #202/1 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #15 - L'etat 7
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #203/0 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #16 - L'etat 8
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #301/0 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #17 - L'etat 9
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Elysion
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #320/0 is invalid.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 00:04 called by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 assigned to Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 accepted by Elysion
4/28/99 00:04 judged UNDECIDED by Elysion
|
|
|
|
CFJ #18 - Contra L'etat 1
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #207/1 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #19 - Contra L'etat 2
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #311/0 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #20 - Contra L'etat 3
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #103/0 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #21 - Contra L'etat 4
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #106/0 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #22 - Contra L'etat 5
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #108/0 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #23 - Contra L'etat 6
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #110/0 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #24 - Contra L'etat 7
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #201/3 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #25 - Contra L'etat 8
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #202/1 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #26 - Contra L'etat 9
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #203/0 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #27 - Contra L'etat 10
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: TeXnocrat
Judgement: UNDECIDED
Statement:
|
|
Rule #320/0 was not legally passed.
|
History:
|
|
4/28/99 18:44 called by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 assigned to TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 accepted by TeXnocrat
4/28/99 18:44 judged UNDECIDED by TeXnocrat
|
|
|
|
CFJ #28 - Attempted Proposal #356
Called by: TeXnocrat
Judge: Independent Council Commander Ikari
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
TeXnocrat's latest proposal cannot yet be submitted.
|
Reason:
|
|
Rule #320 says that no player may submit more than 2 proposals
within any 72 hour period. Despite the fact that Rule #322 permits a
player to retract one of his/her proposals, such a retraction does not
alter the fact that the proposal's initial submission must count towards
the limit in Rule #320.
|
History:
|
|
5/3/99 23:00 called by TeXnocrat
5/4/99 01:04 assigned to Independent Council Commander Ikari
5/4/99 01:23 judged TRUE by Independent Council Commander Ikari
|
|
|
|
CFJ #29 - Xylen's Status
Called by: Elysion
Judge: Independent Council Commander Ikari
Judgement: TRUE
Statement:
|
|
Xylen has not been a player since 4/25/99 22:07
|
Reason:
|
|
Xylen last submitted a proposal at 4/4/99 22:07. Xylen should have
been removed from the game exactly 3 weeks later by rule #200/1. By the
precedent of CFJ #7, Xylen's currency should go to the Royal Exchequer.
|
Judge's Statement:
|
|
Assuming that no one has received an e-mail from Xylen in that
amount of time, then Xylen should be removed from the game.
|
History:
|
|
5/4/99 20:37 called by Elysion
5/4/99 20:37 assigned to Independent Council Commander Ikari
5/4/99 23:29 judged TRUE by Independent Council Commander Ikari
|