New Rishonnomic Proposal Archive: P301-350


Proposal 301
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Dan, Kolja
votes cast against: -
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Tue Nov 25
Create a new rule with the title "Internomic liaison":

The liaison for New Rishonnomic to Internomic has to make sure that New Rishonnomic is a voting member of Internomic.

E may only take action (or send messages) to the Internomic mailing list on behalf of New Rishonnomic four days (96 hours) after announcing such actions (or sending such messages) to all players of New Rishonnomic, and only if no player has sent em any objections to these actions or messages during these four days.

Dan Knapp is New Rishonnomics liaison to Internomic.


Proposal 302
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Tue, 9 Dec 1997

Amend rule 203 by making the following replacements:

The sentence
-If there is only one winner, that Voter becomes the Speaker, and the old Speaker becomes a Voter
is replaced by
-If there is only one winner, the speaker ceases to be the speaker, and the winner becomes Speaker.

The sentence
-If there is more than one winner, the Speaker randomly selects one of the winners, who becomes the new Speaker, and the old Speaker becomes a Voter.
is replaced by
-If there is more than one winner, the Speaker randomly selects one of the winners. The speaker then ceases to be speaker, and the selected winner becomes Speaker.


Proposal 303
Proposed by Andre
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan
votes cast against: Kolja
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Tue, 9 Dec 1997

Amend rule 211 to read:

All Voters gain one point for each proposal on which they voted. If a player's proposal is adopted, that player gains five points.


Proposal 304
Proposed by Andre
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan
votes cast against:
abstained: Dirk, Kolja
Result: adopted Tue, 9 Dec 1997

Create a rule with the text:

Players may make internomic proposals, and do so by sending them to the liaison. The liaison shall then, within one week, send them to the Internomic mailing list. If the proposal gets adopted, the player that proposed it gains eight points.


Proposal 305
Proposed by Andre
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Tue, 9 Dec 1997

Transmute rule 109.

[comment: Step 1 in an attempt to remove the main problem in Agora's original ruleset: the absence of multi-rulechange proposals]


Proposal 306
Proposed by Dan
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan
votes cast against: Kolja
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Mon, 15 Dec 1997

Create a rule with the following text:

Voters may vote on Internomic proposals, and do so by sending their votes to the liason to Internomic, during the New Rishonnomic voting period of the Internomic proposal in question.
The New Rishonnomic voting period of an Internomic proposal is defined as the time between the proposal's announcement on the Internomic list and the time that New Rishonnomic's liason to Internomic closes the period.
The liason to Internomic may close the period on such proposals at any time four days or fewer before the end of their Internomic voting periods. When e does this, e immediately tabulates the results and, if they are not tied, informs Internomic that New Rishonnomic has voted, and that its vote is the majority vote of those e tabulated.
If the liason to Internomic does not close the New Rishonnomic voting period of an Internomic proposal before its period has ended on Internomic, the voting period on that proposal is closed and New Rishonnomic does not vote on it.


Proposal 307
Proposed by Chuck
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Mon, 15 Dec 1997

A new Rule shall be created with the following text (not including that within brackets):

The name of this nomic is New Rishonnomic.

[Comment: Many nomics enshrine their names within their Rules, probably a good practice.]


Proposal 308
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Chuck, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Andre, Dan, Dirk
Result: adopted Mon, 22 Dec 1997

Amend the rule originally created by proposal 306 as follows:

replace the string
"The liason to Internomic may close the period on such proposals at any time four days or fewer before the end of their Internomic voting periods."
by
"The liaison to Internomic may close the period on such proposals at any time seven days or less before the end of their Internomic voting periods.".

Replace each of the remaining three instances of the string "liason" by "liaison".

[Comment: This allows the liaison to vote in time to influence Internomic's own vote which is determined four days before the end of the two week voting period in IN itself. It still leaves NRn seven days to vote, which should be enough (it is enough in Agora experience).]


Proposal 309
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Chuck, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Andre, Dan, Dirk
Result: adopted Mon, 22 Dec 1997

Amend the rule originally created by proposal 306 by appending the paragraph

If the liaison does not close the New Rishonnomic voting period at least 100 hours before the end of the Internomic voting period, e loses five points.

[This forces the liaison to vote in time to influence Internomic's own vote. Of course, it only works together with 308, but I don't think anyone will be against 308 and for 309. In fact, these are two separate proposals so you can be against 309 and still vote for 308.
It also closes a loophole: at the moment, if the liaison doesn't like the outcome of the vote, e may simply not close the voting period and abstain instead of casting a vote e doesn't like.
]


Proposal 310
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Andre, Dirk
Result: adopted Thu, 15 Jan 1998

Create a rule with the title "Speaker's salary" and the text:

The speaker receives a salary of half a point for every proposal made by players other than emself.


Proposal 311
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Andre, Dirk
Result: adopted Thu, 15 Jan 1998

Create a rule with the title "Ambassador's salary" and the text:

On the first day of each month, the ambassador receives a salary of three points.


Proposal 312
Proposed by Dan
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Fri, 16 Jan 1998

Amend rule 301 to read:

The liason for New Rishonnomic to Internomic has to make sure that New Rishonnomic is a voting member of Internomic.

Any action on (or message to) the Internomic mailing list on behalf of Internomic by the liason which is not required of em by a rule of New Rishonnomic is called an 'extra action'. The liason may not make an extra action unless e has announced it (and, if it is a message, its content) to all players of New Rishonnomic, at least four days (96 hours) in advance, and no more than 8 days (192 hours) ago. E is prohibited from making an extra action if, during the four days immediately after the announcement, any player of New Rishonnomic has sent em an objection to the extra action.

Dan Knapp is New Rishonnomic's liason to Internomic.


Proposal 313 - Multiple rule changes step two
Proposed by Andre
votes cast for: Andre
votes cast against: Chuck, Kolja
abstained: Dan, Dirk
Result: rejected Fri, 16 Jan 1998

Amend Rule 305 to read:

The Speaker shall give each proposal a number for reference. The numbers shall begin with 301, and each proposal proposed in the proper way shall receive the next successive integer, whether or not the proposal is adopted. Whenever a proposal creates, amends or transmutes a rule, the rule created, amended or transmuted will receive the lowest number greater than or equal to the number of the proposal which is neither the number of an existing rule nor the number to be given to any other rule because of rule changes earlier in the proposal.


Proposal 314 - Multiple rule changes step two, revised
Proposed by Andre
votes cast for: Andre, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against: Chuck
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Fri, 16 Jan 1998

Amend Rule 305 to read:

The Speaker shall give each proposal a number for reference. The numbers shall begin with 301, and each proposal proposed in the proper way shall receive the next successive integer, whether or not the proposal is adopted. Whenever a proposal creates, amends or transmutes a rule, the rule created, amended or transmuted will receive the lowest number greater than all of the following:
- the highest number of an existing rule
- the highest number to be given to another rule because of rule changes earlier in the proposal
- the number of the proposal

[comment: On request of Kolja, because this gives less work for the Speaker than the former version (this way he does not have to check the 'holes' in the ruleset)]


Proposal 315
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andre, Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dirk
Result: adopted Fri, 16 Jan 1998

Amend 207 by replacing the string
"The Speaker may not reveal any votes until the end of the prescribed voting period."
with
"Until the end of the voting period the Speaker may not reveal any votes except eir own."

Proposal 316
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk
Result: adopted Wed, 28 Jan 1998

Amend 303 by appending the sentence:

A proposal that contains only minor changes may be declared a cosmetic proposal by its proposer. If it is adopted, its proposer gains only one point instead of five.


Proposal 317 (cosmetic)
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Wed, 4 Feb 1998

Amend 311 by replacing the word "ambassador" in the title with "liaison", and the string "the ambassador" in the text with "our liaison to Internomic".

Proposal 318 (cosmetic)
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Wed, 4 Feb 1998

Amend 312 by replacing the string "liason" with "liaison" wherever it appears in 312.

Proposal 319 (cosmetic)
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Wed, 4 Feb 1998

Amend 314 by replacing "shall=20" with "shall", "adopt= ed" with "adopted" and "tha= n" with "than".

Proposal 320
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Wed, 4 Feb 1998

Amend 210 to read

An adopted rule change takes full effect when the Speaker reveals the votes cast on the proposal to all players.


Proposal 321(cosmetic)
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Wed, 4 Feb 1998

Amend 208 to read:

Within four days of the end of the prescribed voting period on a proposal, the Speaker shall reveal all votes legally cast on that proposal.


Proposal 322
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk, Kolja, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 10 Feb 1998

[Create the following rule:]

A person may only join as a player by contacting the speaker with their wish to join.


Proposal 323 (cosmetic)
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 10 Feb 1998

Amend 319 by appending the sentence:

When a rule is amended by a cosmetic proposal, its number does not change.


Proposal 324
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk, Kolja, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 10 Feb 1998

Amend Rule 302:

Change "The winner is the first Voter to achieve 100 (positive) points." to "The winner is the first Voter to achieve 231 (positive) points."

If this proposal is adopted, all Voters that cast a FOR vote for this proposal gain 10 points, and all Voters that cast an AGAINST vote for this proposal lose 10 points.


Proposal 325
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Kolja, Michal
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk
Result: adopted Tue, 10 Feb 1998

Create a rule with the text:

If a Voter has not submitted a vote or a proposal in the last 30 days, e shall be considered "Missing".

If a Voter is considered Missing, e will not count as a Voter for determining Quorum, or any other rule where actions or results depend on the number of Voters.


Proposal 326
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew
votes cast against: Kolja
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk, Michal
Result: rejected Tue, 10 Feb 1998

Repeal Rule 310.

Proposal 327
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk (missing), Michal
Result: adopted Fri, 13 Feb 1998

Create a rule with the following text:

a) An active proposal is one that is currently being voted upon by the voters.

b) At any time, a player may retract a proposal that e submitted, and is currently active. The proposal is then no longer considered active, and can not be voted upon. The player will lose 1 point for retracting a proposal.

c) A player can only have five proposals active at any one time. If e submits a proposal when e already has five active proposals, the most recently submitted proposal will be ignored.


Proposal 328
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja, Michal
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Tue, 17 Feb 1998

Create a rule with the following text:

When a new player joins as a voter, e may include the name of an existing voter, listed as the person who "referred" eir, in the message to join. If such a name is included, the voter who's name was included will gain 15 points.


Proposal 329
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Dan
votes cast against: Andrew
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Kolja, Michal
Result: rejected Tue, 17 Feb 1998

Delete the text:

"- the number of the proposal"

from rule 319.


Proposal 330
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Dan, Kolja
votes cast against: Andrew
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 17 Feb 1998

Amend 210 by appending the following paragraph:

This rule defers to all other rules that concern the determination of quorum.


Proposal 331
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 17 Feb 1998

Transmute rule 105.

[ Remark: This proposal is the next step on the way to allowing multiple rule changes in one proposal. For this purpose, 105 must be amended, but that is only possible if, as a result of this proposal, we make 105 mutable. Note that this proposal will only pass if noone votes against it (R110). ]


Proposal 332 (cosmetic)
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 17 Feb 1998

Amend the rule titled "Internomic liaison" by removing the sentence "When a rule is amended by a cosmetic proposal, its number does not change."

Proposal 333
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 17 Feb 1998

Amend rule 315 by appending the following paragraph:

When a rule is amended by a cosmetic proposal, its number does not change.


Proposal 334
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 17 Feb 1998, a bit later than P333

Amend 201 by appending the following paragraph:

This rule defers to all other rules that concern the determination of quorum.


Proposal 335
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Dan
votes cast against: Andrew, Kolja
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: rejected Wed, 18 Feb 1998

Delete the text:

"- the number of the proposal"

from rule 320.


Proposal 336
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan
votes cast against: Kolja
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Wed, 18 Feb 1998

Create a rule with the text:

Each rule will have a reference code. This reference code can only be changed according to the rules. Each reference code must be unique.

When a proposal causes a new rule to be created, the rule will be given a reference code equal to the number of the proposal which created the rule.

All rules that do not have a reference code will be given a reference code equal to the that rule's number. When all rules have a reference code, this paragraph will be deleted.


Proposal 337
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Chuck, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dan, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Mon, 23 Feb 1998

Delete the text:
"-the number of the proposal"
from rule 315.

Proposal 338
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Chuck, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dan, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Mon, 23 Feb 1998

Amend rule 317:

Add the sentence "If a player's proposal is rejected, that player loses 3 points." to the end of the first paragraph.

Add the sentence "If it is rejected, the proposer does not lose any points." to the end of the second paragraph.


Proposal 339 (cosmetic)
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Thu, 26 Feb 1998

Amend R334/334 by replacing "shall=20" with "shall", "adopt= ed" with "adopted" and "tha= n" with "than". Give the rule the title "Proposal and rule numbers".

Proposal 340
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against: Chuck
abstained: Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Thu, 26 Feb 1998

Amend the rule with the reference code 332 by replacing the sentence
A rule change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of a mutable rule; or (2) the transmutation of an immutable rule into a mutable rule or vice versa.
with
A rule change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of a mutable rule; (2) a combination of several changes listed in (1); or (3) the transmutation of an immutable rule into a mutable rule or vice versa.

Proposal 341
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Chuck, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against: Andrew
abstained: Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Thu, 26 Feb 1998

Amend the rule with the reference code 328 to read

An active proposal is one that is currently being voted upon by the voters. If a player submits a new proposal at a time when there are five or more active proposals that were submitted by em, e loses five points.

Give this rule the title "Active proposals".


Proposal 342
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk, Kolja, Michal
Result: adopted Mon, 2 Mar 1998

Amend the rule with reference code 337 in the following manner:

Add the following text to the end of the second paragraph.

If a proposal creates more than one rule, then each rule created will be given a reference code of the form ###*, where ### is the number of the proposal which created the rules, and * is a character of the alphabet. The first rule created will get the character 'A', with each subsequent rule getting the next character of the alphabet. For the purposes of this rule, the character 'a' is considered to follow 'Z'.

[Comment: This should cover the situation of multiple rule creations in the same proposal. Just as long as we don't get a proposal which creates more than 52 rules.]


Proposal 343
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dan, Dirk, Kolja, Michal
Result: adopted Mon, 2 Mar 1998

Amend the rule with reference code 328 in the following manner:

Replace the second sentence of b) to read:

The proposal is no longer considered active. All existing votes for the proposal are removed, and no further votes will be accepted.

[Comment: This will fix the rule so that we won't have retracted proposals being accepted. At least I think it does - someone let me know if there is still a problem - or even better, submit your own proposal to fix it.]


Proposal 344
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan
votes cast against: Kolja
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 3 Mar 1998

Amend the rule with reference code 316 by adding the following text to the end of the rule:

"This rule defers to any other rule which determines when votes on proposals can be accepted."


Proposal 345
Proposed by Dan
votes cast for: Dan
votes cast against: Andrew, Kolja
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: rejected Tue, 3 Mar 1998

Amend the rule with the reference code 332 by replacing the sentence

A rule change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of a mutable rule; or (2) the transmutation of an immutable rule into a mutable rule or vice versa.

or the sentence

A rule change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of a mutable rule; (2) a combination of several changes listed in (1); or (3) the transmutation of an immutable rule into a mutable rule or vice versa.

(whichever exists in that rule) with

A rule change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of a mutable rule, (2) the transmutation of an immutable rule into a mutable rule or vice-versa, or (3) a combination of changes as in (1) and/or (2), to be performed in a given order (not simultaneously). A rule change may be specified in a format such that its content is conditional, in whole or in part (ie, "if proposal 313 passed, do the following").

[Thus permitting transmutation, modification, and re-transmutation, and also making conditionals explicitly legal. I was going to include re-numbering, but thought better of it: (A) It would probably make a lot of work. (B) Leaving it out cuts down on tough precedence conflicts.


Proposal 346
Proposed by Dan
votes cast for: Dan
votes cast against: Andrew, Kolja
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: rejected Tue, 3 Mar 1998

Append to the rule with reference number 204 the sentence:

The terms 'rule change', 'proposed rule change', and 'proposal' are synonymous.


Proposal 347
Proposed by Dan
votes cast for: Dan, Kolja, Michal
votes cast against: Andrew
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Tue, 3 Mar 1998

Create a new rule, with the following text:

A player with at least 10 (positive) points may spend 10 pospoints to gain the ability to cast one more vote than e would otherwise be able to on a single proposal up for voting at the time of the purchase; the proposal in question must be specified when the purchase is made.

This extra vote does not count toward quorum. No player may purchase more than one vote on a given proposal in this way.


Proposal 348
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan, Kolja
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Michal
Result: adopted Thu, 5 Mar 1998

Amend the rule with reference code 219 to read:

If a player believes that the rules are such that further play is impossible, or that the legality of a move cannot be determined with finality, or that a move appears equally legal and illegal, then the player may invoke judgement on a statement to that effect. If the statement is judged TRUE, then the player who invoked judgement shall be declared the winner of that game, and the game ends.

The winner may then change, repeal or create up to three rules and make any other changes to the game state within one week. Not later than one week after being declared winner e must then inform all players of the changes e made, and the game then continues in the state that is the result of the winners changes. If the winner fails to publish eir changes within one week after being declared winner, the speaker can perform and distribute to all players changes as allowed to the winner in this rule, instead of the winner. Play then continues in the state that is the result of the speakers changes, as soon as the speaker informs all players of these changes.

This rule takes precedence over every other rule determining the winner of the game.


Proposal 349
Proposed by Kolja
votes cast for: Andrew, Kolja, Michal
votes cast against: Dan
abstained: Chuck, Dirk
Result: adopted Thu, 5 Mar 1998

Create a new rule with the title "Liaison's reporting duties" and the text:

New Rishonnomic's liaison to Internomic is obliged to distribute all important informations about the progress of the game of Internomic to all players, as soon as possible after obtaining this information.

Such information includes, but is not limited to:

- new IN proposals distributed by the IN moderator
- results of voting on IN proposals
- the submission and judging of IN Statements for Judgement
- the time when the liaison closes the New Rishonnomic voting period on IN proposals, the votes cast by New Rishonnomic players on these proposals and the vote of New Rishonnomic on these proposals.


Proposal 350
Proposed by Andrew
votes cast for: Andrew, Dan
votes cast against:
abstained: Chuck, Dirk, Kolja, Michal
Result: adopted Tue, 10 Mar 1998

Transmute the rule with reference number 112.