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sinblox
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posted August 17, 2002 12:25 PM      Profile for sinblox     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Title : DoctorB Wins.
Full Text: To win, a player must be registered
in this forum with the name 'doctorb', and be member #16.

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Commence voting.

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sinblox
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posted August 17, 2002 12:26 PM      Profile for sinblox     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I vote nay
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doctorb
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posted August 17, 2002 03:27 PM           Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I vote yes...an infinite number of times.

Yes, I can.

-DoctorB

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sinblox
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posted August 17, 2002 06:14 PM      Profile for sinblox     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I retract my previous vote and I vote NAY an infinite number of times! You need 50.1% of the vote, you only have 50%, agreed?
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posted August 17, 2002 11:55 PM           Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ahh, math.

You're assuming that if (infinity + infinity = 100%), then (infinity = 50%).

That's wrong, wrong, wrong.
It's not infinity either. It's even better.

It's undefined! (Look it up.)

I could leave it at that,
which I suppose would mean this
proposal would stay here forever,
with the current rules...
but I won't.

I'll retract my vote,
and vote yes X+1 times,
where X = The Total Number Of Nays.

Of course, infinity+1 = infinity, so
I've really done nothing but make this
whole business more complicated. [Smile]

-DoctorB

(In case you haven't noticed, I like
pointing out holes in the rules by
example. [Smile] )

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vulture
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posted August 18, 2002 05:49 AM      Profile for vulture   Email vulture   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, thereīs no rule that says that you can retract your vote, so I assume you canīt [Smile]

I vote no often enough to get this rejected [Big Grin]

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sinblox
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posted August 18, 2002 05:21 PM      Profile for sinblox     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Vulture, you're allowed to. [Razz] Maybe we need to make a rule so you can't.
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posted August 18, 2002 05:28 PM           Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I vote no an infinite amount of times
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doctorb
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posted August 19, 2002 07:55 AM           Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
By my estimation, the number of NO votes is :
(infinity + infinity + number needed to have this rejected)

And the number of YES votes is :
((infinity + infinity + number needed to have this rejected) + 1)

And the number needed to have this rejected is :
(((infinity + infinity + number needed to have this rejected) + 1) + 1).

...and so on, and so on, until insanity.

Frankly, I can only see this being
a stalemate.(OR...you could just let me win. [Smile] )

Anyhow, I've made my point.

-DoctorB

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sinblox
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posted August 19, 2002 10:37 AM      Profile for sinblox     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well,

1. You can withdraw this vote (the originator of a proposal has rights over it)

2. A prop can be made to remove it

3. It can sit here forever

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SkyCrashesDown
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posted October 12, 2002 01:32 PM      Profile for SkyCrashesDown   Author's Homepage   Email SkyCrashesDown   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A couple of interesting points:

Doc made his votes prior to the 1-vote rule being placed into effect. My interpretation of the rules leads me to believe that, since no rule can be retroactive, his votes remain as valid as ever.

However, one possible interpretation would be to require a literal "yes" or "no" (or similar utterance) to be posted to count as a vote. So to make a million yes votes, you would have to post the word "yes" a million times.

Whether or not you interpret things that way makes no difference now, though. It seems that I am presently the only active player, and as such my vote is the only vote that counts. Though other players placed votes, those players' votes are not counted in the total because they are now inactive. And since my vote constitutes 100% of the voting population, I can decide the issue once and for all right now.

I vote no; the proposal fails.

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Rule 101: Everybody love Pupkin.

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physics_geek
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posted October 13, 2002 04:20 AM      Profile for physics_geek     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I vote no. Proposal still fails.

Is there some kind of time limit to this or no? Does sinblox need to move in a finialize the vote? Does everyone have to vote? No one seems to be active anyway, so maybe it doesn't matter.

Interesting idea though...

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SkyCrashesDown
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posted October 13, 2002 07:30 PM      Profile for SkyCrashesDown   Author's Homepage   Email SkyCrashesDown   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As I interpret the current rules, as soon as the vote has been definitely decided then it's over. This is based on the 50.1% to win rule, and also the rule that players must follow the rules *as they currently are*, which sort of implies that if a proposal has 50.1% of the votes *currently*, then we must follow the rules and accept the proposal as a new rule.

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