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From: Ole Andersen  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Sat Apr 10, 1999 6:31pm
Subject: deNomic - Amend 316

  I propose this:

Amend:
"Rule 316 - mutable
Vegetables for Public Servants


The Speaker receives one vegetable every time a vote is decided.
A judge receives three vegetables for every point he/she makes a decision
about, except if the point in question is found to be undecided.
Other public servants are paid according to subsequent rules.
All payments must be made by the holder of the Office of Agriculture or, if
there is no holder of any Office of Agriculture, the Speaker."

to have this wording:

"Rule 313 - mutable
The Agricultural Foundation


The Agricultural Foundation initially consists of twenty-five generic
Vegetables.
All salaries for Judges and Public Servants are paid by the Agricultural
Foundation.
The Officer of Agriculture receives a salary of one Vegetable per Turn.
The Speaker receives a salary of one Vegetable every time a vote is decided.
A Judge receives a salary of three Vegetables upon making a Judgement,
unless the Judgement is undecided.
The Officer of Agriculture decides which of the kinds of Vegetables in the
Agricultural Foundation, salaries are to be paid in.
Unless otherwise defined, salaries are to be paid on Wednesdays.
The Officer of Agriculture administrates the Agricultural Foundation, and
may make no payments from the Agricultural Foundation, unless those payments
are prescribed in the rules."





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From: Ole Andersen  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Sat Apr 10, 1999 6:42pm
Subject: deNomic - Amend 313

 
I propose this:

Amend:
"Rule 313 - mutable
Vegetable Taxation


The holder of the Office of Agriculture may tax the players for vegetables.
The taxation must be performed according to rules of equality decided by the
holder of the Office. The players must then pay to the holder of the Office
the number and type of vegetables due. If a player has too few vegetables to
be able to pay, he/she loses 3 points for each vegetable he/she is short of
payment.
Any player may present the holder of the Office with a
vote-of-no-confidence, referring to a specific taxation (not necessarily a
vote-of-no-confidence in the holder of the Office him/herself). If this vote
passes, then the taxation in question, and subsequent taxations up to the
time the vote is decided, are deemed void, and must be paid back.

If there is no holder of any Office of Agriculture, then the Speaker assumes
this rôle for the purpose of this rule."

to have this wording:

"Rule 313 - mutable
Vegetable Taxation


The Officer of Agriculture may once a Turn tax the Players for Vegetables.
The taxation must be of one of the following kinds:
1)    Wealth Tax, being a share of the Players' Vegetable holdings at the
beginning of the Turn,
2)    Income Tax, being a share of the Players' Vegetable gain during the
Turn,
3)    Poll Tax, being a number of Vegetables from each Player, or
4)    Value Added Tax, being a share to be added to every Vegetable
transaction duuring the Turn.

The Officer must announce the kind of taxation as well as the tax share for
a given Turn no later than 60 hours before the beginning of the Turn.
All Taxes for a given Turn are paid at the end of the Turn.
If a Player has too few Vegetables to be able to pay his/her taxes, he/she
loses 3 points for each Vegetable he/she is short of payment.
All taxes are paid to the Agricultural Foundation."






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From: Rune Kock  <zarquon@t...>
Date: Sat Apr 10, 1999 10:58pm
Subject: deNomic Sv: Sv: - the Aeshna package

 
 Ups, Rune!


51 forslag til regler uden titler....


Oops indeed.

Now, the question is how to interpret the new rule 223 (standing in line).   Are one's proposals automatically put into the queue?   If so, I can still retract the package -- but even then it might be argued that the fine would still apply.

If all else fails, I shall claim that the numbers are the titles.

R.

 -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Rune Kock zarquon@t... Til: deNomic denomic@egroups.com Dato: 10. april 1999 11:55 Emne: deNomic - the Aeshna package

Sadly, we never got to vote on Kira's ingenious protoproposals.

So now I submit them as a package of proposals.   Of course, some of the rule may seem odd now that we've got no geography, but well, we may still vote on them, and -- who knows -- we might get geography again one day.

 :1) On West Farm there is an unlimited amount of sheep : :2) A player in West Farm may take one sheep : :3) A player can not carry more than one sheep at a time : :4) Un-carried sheep will return to West Farm : :5) Carrying a sheep to South Farm will cause it to be slaughtered, resulting :in 1 lamb carcass and 1 woolly sheep coat : :6) Having a carried sheep slaughtered will not result in it being dropped : :7) A player can choose to drop either (a) lamb carcass(es), (a) woolly sheep :coat(s), or any combination of such : :8) Dropped lamb carcasses and woolly sheep coats will automatically rot :causing extreme discomfort to anyone in that crossroad or farm : :9) Woolly sheep coats can be worn, however a player doing such loses 30 :charisma points due to the coat being yucky, bloody, and generally icky as :well as foul-smelling. This makes you lose favour with the Gods, causing a
1 :point penalty each round while the woolly sheep coat is worn : :10) Lamb carcasses can not be worn : :11) A lamb carcass carried to East Farm becomes 2 lamb chops : :12) Having a lamb carcass become 2 lamb chops will not result in it being :dropped : :13) A player can choose to drop an amount of lamb chops smaller or equal
to
 :the amount he is carrying : :14) Sacrifice of 2 lamb chops and 5 vegetables to the Gods will cause the :player doing the sacrifice to gain favour with the Gods, resulting in 5 :bonus points : :15) A woolly sheep coat carried to the North Farm becomes a trendy, :home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater : :16) Having a woolly sheep coat become a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater :wil not result in it being dropped : :17) A player can choose to drop an amount of trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby :Sweaters smaller or equal to the amount he is carrying : :18) A woolly sheep coat and a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater can not :be worn at the same time : :19) Wearing a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater will cause you to gain
30 :charisma points, which makes you a favorite of the Gods, while you wear
it.
 :The Gods grant you a 1 point bonus each round. : :20) Every 15th turn a new (not necessarily another) priest will be
randomly
 :selected from the players. : :21) A priest is doubly affected by the favour/disfavour of the Gods : :22) If given 2 lamb chops and 5 vegetables by a player a priest can not :refuse to carry out a sacrifice for the player. Having a sacrifice carried :out by the priest causes the player to be doubly affected by the favour of :the Gods, that is the player gets a 10 point bonus instead of only a 5 point :bonus : :23) If given a woolly sheep coat   by a player, a priest can not refuse the :player's request to dress him in this, i.e.   causing him to wear the
woolly
 :sheep coat. Being dressed in a woolly sheep coat by a priest causes the :player to be doubly affected by the disfavour of the Gods, that is the :player gets a 2 point penalty each round instead of only 1 point penalty : :24) If given a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater by a player, a priest :can not refuse the player's request to dress him in this, i.e.   causing
him
 :to wear the trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater. Being dressed in a trendy, :home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater by a priest causes the player to be doubly :affected by the favour of the Gods, that is the player gets a 2 point
bonus
 :each round instead of only 1 point bonus : :25) The Gods are not concerned with whether or not a person is silly. :Sillyness does not apply in favour/disfavour bonus/penalties of the Gods : :26) The game is affected by the moon's course in rl : :27) A proposal put forth on a New Moon needs 3/4 of the votes to be in :favour of it, in order to be adopted : :28) A proposal put forth on a Full Moon needs 1/2 of the votes to be in :favour of it, in order to be adopted : :29) Dropped lamb chops will immediately be eaten by toxic bacteria : :30) Dropped trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweaters will immediately be torn :to shreds, i.e. disintegrated, by Grungers : :31)   In Central Square there is an unlimited supply of egg-plant seeds : :32) In Central Square there is a fountain containing an unlimited amount
of
 :un-.pollutable water : :33) In Central Square there is an unlimited supply of buckets, which can
be
 :filled with water : :34) There is an indestructible ant hill in Central Square : :35) It takes 10 egg-plant seeds to make an egg-plant field : :36) Every time a player moves into Central Square, he may pick up an :egg-plant seed, with a maximum of 10 egg-plant seeds carried at any time : :37) When a player is carrying 10 egg-plant seeds he may plant an egg-plant :field, thereby using all 10 egg-plant seeds. The field has to be located
at
 :one of the farms. : :38)   In order for the plants to carry fruit, the player must water the field :with water from the Central Square fountain every 6 turns. If this fails :even once, the entire crop fails, and another field must be planted : :39) A player can not water, pick fruit from or in any other way interfere :with another player's egg-plant field : :40) 10 egg-plant seeds can not be carried at the same time as a bucket :containing anything. An amount of egg-plant seeds less than 10 can be :carried at the same time as a bucket containing water : :41) An egg-plant seed dropped anywhere, except when planted in an
egg-plant
 :field, is immediately carried off to Central Square by ants : :42) A successful egg-plant crop yields 2 egg-plant fruits per plant. The :crop is deemed successful after 21 turns if the watering criterium has
been
 :met. The player who owns the field may pick the fruits : :43) At Central Square there is a Vegetable Market. Here players may buy or :sell vegetables from/to the Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner : :44) The currency with which vegetables are sold and bought at the
Vegetable
 :Market is points. The Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner has an
unlimited
 :supply of points : :45) The Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner will always buy vegetables, but :can only sell what vegetables it may have in stock : :46) The buying price of acorn for the Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner :is randomly selected each turn to be between 5-10 points : :47) The buying price of generic vegetables for the Virtual Vegetable
Market
 :Booth Owner is randomly selected each turn to be between 1-3 points : :48) The buying price of egg-plant fruits for the Virtual Vegetable Market :Booth Owner is randomly selected each turn to be between 4-7 points : :49) If any acorns are in stock, the selling price to the players is randomly :selected each turn to be between 10-15 points : :50) If any generic vegetables are in stock, the selling price to the players :is randomly selected each turn to be between 3-5 points : :51) If any egg-plant fruits are in stock, the selling price to the players :is randomly selected each turn to be between 7-10 points

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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Sun Apr 11, 1999 5:50am
Subject: deNomic Timing

 
This is the time schedule for deNomic:

Sunday 08:00    Beginning of new Turn
Monday                Monsanto Man may/must spread his vile poison
Wednesday        Distribution of the two frontmost entries in each Player's
Proposal Queue
Thursday            Tithe to the Martyr


Ole


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Date: Sun Apr 11, 1999 5:52am
Subject: deNomic - Selection of Officer of Agriculture

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Subject: deNomic - Selection of Monsanto Man

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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Sun Apr 11, 1999 10:35pm
Subject: deNomic - Game State Document

  Past winners:
Kira won game 1 with 101 points

Players:

Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... , Speaker
Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... , Citizen
Christian Mønsted, dr@m... , Citizen
Rune Kock, rune@i... , Citizen
Peter Gadebirk, gadebirk@p... , Citizen
Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c... , Citizen
Piet Mertz, S980223.Piet.Mertz@H... , Citizen

Officers:
Officer of Agriculture: Peter
Monsanto Man: Piet

Organisations:
Cult of the Ant
-no members-

Teosophy of Overly Objective Bandits And Dreamers (TOO-BAD)
-no members-

Proposal Queues:

Ole:
468: Amend 225
469: Amend 311
470: Amend 316
471: Amend 313

Kira:
-no entries-

Christian:
-no entries-

Rune:
416: Voluntary Judges
Pack417-467: The Aeshna Package

Peter:
-no entries-

Martin:
-no entries-

Piet:
-no entries-





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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Mon Apr 12, 1999 11:33am
Subject: deNomic - Useful addresses

  Spillet har tre mailing lists:


1)      denomic@egroups.com Den generelle liste for spillet.
Hvis man ikke er på denne liste, kan man sende en mail til: denomic-subscribe@egroups.com


2)      denomic-propqueue@egroups.com Her kan man sende sine forslag.
Hvis man ønsker at se de andres forslag før de biver distribueret, kan man komme på denne liste ved at sende en mail til: denomic-propqueue-subscribe@egroups.com


3)      denomic-vote@egroups.com Her kan man sende sine stemmer.
Denne liste har kun en modtager: mig.

Hvis man sender sine forslag til denomic@egroups.com kommer forslagene ud til (stort set) alle med det samme. Hvis man sender sine forslag til denomic-propqueue@egroups.com kommer forslagene ud til denne listes medlemmer med det samme. De kommer ud til alle spillere når de distribueres - to fra hver spiller hver onsdag. Hvis man sender sine forslag til mig kommer forslagene ikke ud før de distribueres.

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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Mon Apr 12, 1999 6:21pm
Subject: deNomic Sv: - Game State Document

  Rune wrote:

P'haps it would be easier to assign the proposal numbers when the proposals
are distributed.


...

OK. The next installation of the GSD will be without prop numbers.

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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Apr 13, 1999 10:12pm
Subject: deNomic - Distribution of Proposals etc.

 
Ballot:
416    Voluntary Judges
417    Amend 225
418    Amend 311
Pack419-469 The Aeshna Package (rev.2)

The voting for these proposals begins Sunday (18.4.1999) at 08.00
and ends Sunday (25.4.1999) at 08.00.



#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#
The proposals and package:
#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#


416    Voluntary Judges

Rune has proposed the following new rule:

"Voluntary Judges

Any player may declare himself a voluntary judge.

Whenever a judge is to be selected, any voluntary judges that qualify shall
be considered before any other players.  In this respect, this rule takes
precedence over other rules for selecting a judge; however, the other rules
shall still determine which players qualify as judge, and how to select
amongst the voluntary judges or amongst the other players if no voluntary
judges qualify.

A voluntary judge gains 10 points for each valid judgment he makes.

If ever a voluntary judge fails to submit a judgment on time, he stops being
a voluntary judge.  A voluntary judge may also resign."

#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#
417    Amend 225
Ole has proposed this:

Amend:
"Rule 225 - mutable
Pausing the Game


The Speaker may at any time declare a Pause in the Game.
Such a Pause must have a duration of a number of full weeks.
The duration of the Pause must be declared with the declaration of the
Pause."

to have this wording:

"Rule 225 - mutable
Pausing the Game


The Speaker may at any time declare a Pause in the Game.
Such a Pause must have a duration of a number of full weeks.
The duration of the Pause must be declared with the declaration of the
Pause.
During a Pause, no game time passes.
The state of the game at the end of a Pause shall be the same as state of
the game was at the beginning of the Pause."

#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#
418    Amend 311
Ole has proposed this:

Amend:
"Rule 311 - mutable
Office of Agriculture


There exists an Office of Agriculture.
This office is held by a Citizen, chosen randomly by the Speaker.
The Citizen holding the Office of Agriculture can once a Turn produce one
Vegetable.
If any kinds of Vegetables are mentioned in the rules, the produced
Vegetable must be of one of the mentioned kinds. Otherwise, it is a generic
Vegetable. The holder of the Office of Agriculture notifies the Speaker as
to which kind of Vegetable is produced.
Each time a non-generic Vegetable is produced, the holder of the Office of
Agriculture receives four points. Each time a generic Vegetable is produced,
the holder of the Office of Agriculture receives one point."

to have this wording:

"Rule 311 - mutable
Office of Agriculture


There exists an Office of Agriculture.
This office is held by a Citizen, chosen randomly by the Speaker.
The Citizen holding the Office of Agriculture can once a Turn produce one
Vegetable to be included in the Agricultural Foundation.
If any kinds of Vegetables are mentioned in the rules, the produced
Vegetable must be of one of the mentioned kinds. Otherwise, it is a generic
Vegetable. The holder of the Office of Agriculture notifies the Speaker as
to which kind of Vegetable is produced.
Each time a non-generic Vegetable is produced, the holder of the Office of
Agriculture receives four points. Each time a generic Vegetable is produced,
the holder of the Office of Agriculture receives one point."


#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Pack419-469 The Aeshna Package (rev.2)
Rune has proposed this package, consisting of 51 proposals for new rules:

Package name: The Aeshna Package rev. 2

For each proposal, the first line (excluding the number) is the title.

1) Lots of Sheep
On West Farm there is an unlimited amount of sheep

2) Grab a Sheep
A player in West Farm may take one sheep

3) But only one
A player can not carry more than one sheep at a time

4) And keep a firm grip
Un-carried sheep will return to West Farm

5) The Butchers
Carrying a sheep to South Farm will cause it to be slaughtered, resulting in
1 lamb carcass and 1 woolly sheep coat

6) Blood Works as Glue
Having a carried sheep slaughtered will not result in it being dropped

7) Getting rid of Evidence
A player can choose to drop either (a) lamb carcass(es), (a) woolly sheep
coat(s), or any combination of such

8) Exposed by the Smell
Dropped lamb carcasses and woolly sheep coats will automatically rot causing
extreme discomfort to anyone in that crossroad or farm

9) Either Freeze or be Ugly
Woolly sheep coats can be worn, however a player doing such loses 30
charisma points due to the coat being yucky, bloody, and generally icky as
well as foul-smelling. This makes you lose favour with the Gods, causing a 1
point penalty each round while the woolly sheep coat is worn

10) I should hope not
Lamb carcasses can not be worn

11) One Equals Two
A lamb carcass carried to East Farm becomes 2 lamb chops

12) That blood thing again
Having a lamb carcass become 2 lamb chops will not result in it being
dropped

13) But whose chops are dropped?
A player can choose to drop an amount of lamb chops smaller or equal to the
amount he is carrying

14) Bribery
Sacrifice of 2 lamb chops and 5 vegetables to the Gods will cause the player
doing the sacrifice to gain favour with the Gods, resulting in 5 bonus
points

15) The Nothern Fashion Factory
A woolly sheep coat carried to the North Farm becomes a trendy, home-knit
Bill Cosby Sweater

16) Still more blood?
Having a woolly sheep coat become a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater wil
not result in it being dropped

17) So you would rather be naked?
A player can choose to drop an amount of trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby
Sweaters smaller or equal to the amount he is carrying

18) Fashion and Anti-fashion can't combine
A woolly sheep coat and a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater can not be
worn at the same time

19) Oh he's so cute
Wearing a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater will cause you to gain 30
charisma points, which makes you a favorite of the Gods, while you wear it.
The Gods grant you a 1 point bonus each round.

20) Random piety
Every 15th turn a new (not necessarily another) priest will be randomly
selected from the players.

21) Piety-intoxication makes the Gods see double
A priest is doubly affected by the favour/disfavour of the Gods

22) So they overrate the food
If given 2 lamb chops and 5 vegetables by a player a priest can not refuse
to carry out a sacrifice for the player. Having a sacrifice carried out by
the priest causes the player to be doubly affected by the favour of the
Gods, that is the player gets a 10 point bonus instead of only a 5 point
bonus

23) But still don't like humans dressed as sheep
If given a woolly sheep coat by a player, a priest can not refuse the
player's request to dress him in this, i.e. causing him to wear the woolly
sheep coat. Being dressed in a woolly sheep coat by a priest causes the
player to be doubly affected by the disfavour of the Gods, that is the
player gets a 2 point penalty each round instead of only 1 point penalty

24) Still Costly looks count
If given a trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater by a player, a priest can
not refuse the player's request to dress him in this, i.e.  causing him to
wear the trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater. Being dressed in a trendy,
home-knit Bill Cosby Sweater by a priest causes the player to be doubly
affected by the favour of the Gods, that is the player gets a 2 point bonus
each round instead of only 1 point bonus

25) They can't see the difference
The Gods are not concerned with whether or not a person is silly. Sillyness
does not apply in favour/disfavour bonus/penalties of the Gods

26) The Enigma Rule
The game is affected by the moon's course in rl

27) Can't count without light
A proposal put forth on a New Moon needs 3/4 of the votes to be in favour of
it, in order to be adopted

28) Now that's better
A proposal put forth on a Full Moon needs 1/2 of the votes to be in favour
of it, in order to be adopted

29) Chops must be kept next to the body
Dropped lamb chops will immediately be eaten by toxic bacteria

30) Envy
Dropped trendy, home-knit Bill Cosby Sweaters will immediately be torn to
shreds, i.e. disintegrated, by Grungers

31) Seeds come and come
In Central Square there is an unlimited supply of egg-plant seeds

32) Spring, spring, happy spring
In Central Square there is a fountain containing an unlimited amount of
un-pollutable water

33) There's whisky in the jar?
In Central Square there is an unlimited supply of buckets, which can be
filled with water

34) So that's where they come from!
There is an indestructible ant hill in Central Square

35) One egg is ten.
It takes 10 egg-plant seeds to make an egg-plant field

36) One seed in each pocket
Every time a player moves into Central Square, he may pick up an egg-plant
seed, with a maximum of 10 egg-plant seeds carried at any time

37) Seeding the seeds
When a player is carrying 10 egg-plant seeds he may plant an egg-plant
field, thereby using all 10 egg-plant seeds. The field has to be located at
one of the farms.

38) Even worse than babies
In order for the plants to carry fruit, the player must water the field with
water from the Central Square fountain every 6 turns. If this fails even
once, the entire crop fails, and another field must be planted

39) And no baby-sitters
A player can not water, pick fruit from or in any other way interfere with
another player's egg-plant field

40) Don''t mix seeds and water
10 egg-plant seeds can not be carried at the same time as a bucket
containing anything. An amount of egg-plant seeds less than 10 can be
carried at the same time as a bucket containing water

41) When they aren't busy voting
An egg-plant seed dropped anywhere, except when planted in an egg-plant
field, is immediately carried off to Central Square by ants

42) Finally
A successful egg-plant crop yields 2 egg-plant fruits per plant. The crop is
deemed successful after 21 turns if the watering criterium has been met. The
player who owns the field may pick the fruits

43) Central Vegetables, Inc.
At Central Square there is a Vegetable Market. Here players may buy or sell
vegetables from/to the Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner

44) So perhaps it is the winner
The currency with which vegetables are sold and bought at the Vegetable
Market is points. The Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner has an unlimited
supply of points

45) Always check the stock before paying
The Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner will always buy vegetables, but can
only sell what vegetables it may have in stock

46) Acornian wealth
The buying price of acorn for the Virtual Vegetable Market Booth Owner is
randomly selected each turn to be between 5-10 points

47) Generic poverty
The buying price of generic vegetables for the Virtual Vegetable Market
Booth Owner is randomly selected each turn to be between 1-3 points

48) Sell your babies
The buying price of egg-plant fruits for the Virtual Vegetable Market Booth
Owner is randomly selected each turn to be between 4-7 points

49) Best acorns in town!
If any acorns are in stock, the selling price to the players is randomly
selected each turn to be between 10-15 points

50) No artificial genes added!
If any generic vegetables are in stock, the selling price to the players is
randomly selected each turn to be between 3-5 points

51) Just add tea, and it's real!
If any egg-plant fruits are in stock, the selling price to the players is
randomly selected each turn to be between 7-10 points

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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Apr 13, 1999 10:12pm
Subject: deNomic - Game State Document 14.4.1999

  Past winners:
Kira won game 1 with 101 points
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Players:
Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... , Speaker, 0 points
Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... , Citizen, 0 points
Christian Mønsted, dr@m... , Citizen, 0 points
Rune Kock, rune@i... , Citizen, 0 points
Peter Gadebirk, gadebirk@p... , Citizen, 0 points
Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c... , Citizen, 0 points
Piet Mertz, S980223.Piet.Mertz@H... , Citizen, 0 points
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Officers:
Officer of Agriculture: Peter
Monsanto Man: Piet
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Organisations:
Cult of the Ant
Rune, Ole

Teosophy of Overly Objective Bandits And Dreamers (TOO-BAD)
Rune, Ole
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Proposal Queues:

Ole:
Amend 316
Amend 313

Kira:
-no entries-

Christian:
-no entries-

Rune:
-no entries-

Peter:
-no entries-

Martin:
-no entries-

Piet:
-no entries-




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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Sun Apr 18, 1999 5:03pm
Subject: deNomic - Game State Document 18.4.1999

 
Voting on 416, 417, 418 and Pack419-469 has begun.
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Past winners:
Kira won game 1 with 101 points
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Players:
Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... , Speaker, 0 points
Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... ,  Citizen, 0 points
Christian Mønsted, dr@m... , Citizen, 0 points
Rune Kock, rune@i... , Citizen, 0 points
Peter Gadebirk, gadebirk@p... , Citizen, 0 points
Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c...  , Citizen, 0 points
Piet Mertz, S980223.Piet.Mertz@H... , Citizen, 0 points
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Officers:
Officer of Agriculture: Peter
Monsanto Man: Piet
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Organisations:
Cult of the Ant
Rune, Ole

Teosophy of Overly Objective Bandits And Dreamers (TOO-BAD)
Rune, Ole
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Prophets:
-none-
(therefore no Martyrs, too)
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Proposal Queues:

Ole:
Amend 316
Amend 313
Calvinball
Amend 213

Kira:
-no entries-

Christian:
-no entries-

Rune:
-no entries-

Peter:
-no entries-

Martin:
-no entries-

Piet:
-no entries-

#€#€#€#€#€#€#
E-mail adresses of the game:
1)    denomic@egroups.com
2)    denomic-propqueue@egroups.com
3)    denomic-vote@egroups.com
4)    calvinball@egroups.com
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Time schedule:

Sunday 08:00    Beginning of new Turn (beginning and end of vote)
Monday               Monsanto Time
Wednesday        Distribution Time
Thursday            Tithing Time





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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 10:34pm
Subject: deNomic - Game State Document 21.4.1999

 
Let me know if you receive this twice.
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Voting on 416, 417, 418 and Pack419-469 has begun.
Pack470-472 and 473 have been distributed.
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Past winners:
Kira won game 1 with 101 points
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Players:
Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... , Speaker, 0 points
Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... ,  Citizen, 0 points
Christian Mønsted, dr@m... , Citizen, 0 points
Rune Kock, rune@i... , Citizen, 0 points
Peter Gadebirk, gadebirk@p... , Citizen, 0 points
Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c...  , Citizen, 0 points
Piet Mertz, S980223.Piet.Mertz@H... , Citizen, 0 points
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Officers:
Officer of Agriculture: Peter
Monsanto Man: Piet
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Organisations:
Cult of the Ant
Rune, Ole

Teosophy of Overly Objective Bandits And Dreamers (TOO-BAD)
Rune, Ole
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Prophets:
-none-
(therefore no Martyrs, too)
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Proposal Queues:

Ole:
Amend 313
Calvinball
Amend 213

Kira:
-no entries-

Christian:
-no entries-

Rune:
-no entries-

Peter:
-no entries-

Martin:
-no entries-

Piet:
-no entries-

#€#€#€#€#€#€#
E-mail adresses of the game:
1)    denomic@egroups.com
2)    denomic-propqueue@egroups.com
3)    denomic-vote@egroups.com
4)    calvinball@egroups.com
#€#€#€#€#€#€#
Time schedule:

Sunday 08:00    Beginning of new Turn (beginning and end of vote)
Monday               Monsanto Time
Wednesday        Distribution Time
Thursday            Tithing Time




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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Apr 20, 1999 10:31pm
Subject: deNomic - Distribution of Proposals

 
Ballot:
Pack470-472    Timing Package
473    Amend 316


The voting for these proposals begins Sunday (25.4.1999) at 08.00
and ends Sunday (2.5.1999) at 08.00.

[I am the only player with entries in my proposal queue.
Rune's package proposals will only be distributed if his package isn't
adopted - and then at the rate of two per week.]

#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#
The proposals and package:
#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#


Pack470-472    Timing Package

Ole has proposed the following package:

The Package consists of three proposals:

1)    Transmute 109
2)    Amend 109
3)    If 109 has been transmuted, transmute it again.

1) and 3) are rather obvious.

2) goes like this:

Amend:
"Rule 109 - immutable
Making Proposals


The proper way to make a proposal is to send it by electronic mail to the
current Speaker. The Speaker will then distribute the proposal to all
Players. The prescribed voting period is the first full Turn after the
Speaker has distributed the proposal."

to have this wording:

"Rule # - immutable
Making Proposals


The proper way to make a proposal is to send it by electronic mail to the
current Speaker. The Speaker will distribute the proposal to all
Players. The prescribed voting period begins the moment the proposal has
been distributed, and ends at the beginning of the Turn after the
distribution."

#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#
473    Amend 316
Ole proposes this:

Amend:
"Rule 316 - mutable
Vegetables for Public Servants


The Speaker receives one vegetable every time a vote is decided.
A judge receives three vegetables for every point he/she makes a decision
about, except if the point in question is found to be undecided.
Other public servants are paid according to subsequent rules.
All payments must be made by the holder of the Office of Agriculture or, if
there is no holder of any Office of Agriculture, the Speaker."

to have this wording:

"Rule 313 - mutable
The Agricultural Foundation


The Agricultural Foundation initially consists of twenty-five generic
Vegetables.
All salaries for Judges and Public Servants are paid by the Agricultural
Foundation.
The Officer of Agriculture receives a salary of one Vegetable per Turn.
The Speaker receives a salary of one Vegetable every time a vote is decided.
A Judge receives a salary of three Vegetables upon making a Judgement,
unless the Judgement is undecided.
The Officer of Agriculture decides which of the kinds of Vegetables in the
Agricultural Foundation, salaries are to be paid in.
Unless otherwise defined, salaries are to be paid on Wednesdays.
The Officer of Agriculture administrates the Agricultural Foundation, and
may make no payments from the Agricultural Foundation, unless those payments
are prescribed in the rules."

#€#€#€#€#€#€#€#



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From: the Speaker  <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Wed Apr 21, 1999 1:59pm
Subject: deNomic Sv: - Distribution of Proposals

  Oooops!

In Prop 473, I wrote:

:
:Amend:
:"Rule 316 - mutable
:Vegetables for Public Servants
<snip>
:
:to have this wording:
:
:"Rule 313 - mutable
:The Agricultural Foundation
:
<snip>


Of course, Rule 316 should not be amended to be Rule 313.
Not that it changes anything. The rule will still become Rule 473 if
adopted.
Goes to show the wonders of cut-and-paste.

Ole





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