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| 106 |
From: Rune Kock <zarquon@t...>
Date: Mon May 31, 1999 11:02pm
Subject: deNomic Paused 30.5-20.6 Sv: Vs: Game State Document, 30.05.1999
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> Rune asked:
>
>
>
> > +-Silo Manager's Report-----------------------------------+
> > | Players: |
> > | Ole: 1 Vegetable |
> > +---------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Corporations: |
> > | The Gnomes of Zurich: 5 Vegetables |
> > +---------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Agricultural Foundation: |
> > | 25 Vegetables (generic) |
> > +---------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Payments due: |
> > | Agricultural Foundation to Ole: 22 Vegetables |
> > | Agricultural Foundation to Peter: 4 Vegetables |
> > | Agricultural Foundation to Kira: 3 Vegetables |
>
> Why don't these payments take place? The debts just accumulate from week to
> week.
>
> ###
>
> Because the Officer of Agriculture has chosen to do nothing about it.
> Besides, he doesn't have the funds to make all the payments, so he must
> choose which to make first. He can't even tax his way out of it, because the
> Gnomes are (if I read the Rules correctly) un-taxable.
>
> This might be a reason to oust him, but the Speaker cannot initiate a Vote
> of No Confidence. See Rule 325 for details.
>
>
> Ole
He must still make a partial payment (rule 480).
I agree that game entities such as the Gnomes are untaxable, except possibly for value added tax.
Perhaps we need some kind of fine for not doing ones duty.
R.
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| 107 |
From: Ole Andersen <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Jun 1, 1999 4:21am
Subject: deNomic Paused 30.5-20.6 Sv: Sv: Vs: Game State Document, 30.05.1999
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Rune wrote:
He must still make a partial payment (rule 480).
I agree that game entities such as the Gnomes are untaxable, except possibly
for value added tax.
Perhaps we need some kind of fine for not doing ones duty.
R.
###
Yes, he must make a partial payment. And (Rule 473), he must do so on a
Wednesday. But which Wednesday?
Ole
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| 108 |
From: the Speaker <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Sun Jun 20, 1999 8:40pm
Subject: deNomic Peter, Piet and Christian Presumed Dead
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Rule 334 - mutable
Death of a Citizen
If a citizen has shown no sign of life for 14 days, the citizen is
considered dead. A dead citizen shall not be considered a player.
If a dead citizen later proves conclusively that he/she is in fact alive,
he/she must immediately be revitalised as a player.
Sign of life is defined as an email from the citizen to the speaker.
#######################
I hereby presume Peter, Piet and Christian Dead, as per Rule 334.
If they do not reply to this message within 24 hours, they will be
unsubscribed from the list. If so, they can re-subscribe by sending mail to
denomic-subscribe@egroups.com .
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| 109 |
From: Ole Andersen <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Mon Jun 21, 1999 11:51pm
Subject: deNomic Re: Peter, Piet and Christian Presumed Dead
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Because Peter, Piet and Christian are out of the game, we have to find a new
Monsanto Man and a new Officer of Agriculture.
Monsanto Man is chosen randomly among the players, while the Officer of
Agriculture is chosen randomly among the Citizens. I'll put the dice server
to work. The results will go to denomic-dice@egroups.com
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| 110 |
From: the Speaker <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Jun 22, 1999 10:07am
Subject: deNomic Monsanto Man and Officer of Agriculture appointed
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I gave the dice server these options:
1 Kira
2 Rune
3 Martin
4 Ole - only for MM, not OoA
And it chose 2 for MM and 2 for OoA, meaning that Rune now holds both these
offices.
Ole
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| 111 |
From: Rune Kock <zarquon@t...>
Date: Sat May 22, 1999 4:46pm
Subject: deNomic Vegetable announcement
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As I have now assumed the offices of agriculture and monsanto man, I have the following announcement:
1) The vegetable-salaries that the foundation illegally failed to pay in previous weeks are annulled. In other words, the debts of the foundation are not honoured.
2) Payments due tomorrow, for salaries earned in the period of May 26-30 and June 20-23, shall be payed by the foundation. The payments shall be made in generic vegetables. This amounts to 3 vegetables for Ole, for deciding 3 votes, and one for me as officer of agriculture.
3) A value added vegetable tax is introduced, beginning next turn, and continuing for future turns until retracted by the officer of agriculture. The tax is 100%.
4) Every wednesday morning, a generic vegetable shall be grown for the foundation.
5) No poison shall be spread by me in the immediate future.
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| 112 |
From: Ole Andersen <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Jun 22, 1999 6:07pm
Subject: deNomic Re: Vegetable announcement
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Rune wrote:
As I have now assumed the offices of agriculture and monsanto man, I have
the following announcement:
1) The vegetable-salaries that the foundation illegally failed to pay in
previous weeks are annulled. In other words, the debts of the foundation
are not honoured.
###
From Rule 101:
"All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in the form
in which they are then in effect, and interpreted in accordance with
currently existing game custom."
I see your refusal to honour the debts of the foundation as a breach of Rule
101.
2) Payments due tomorrow, for salaries earned in the period of May 26-30 and
June 20-23, shall be payed by the foundation. The payments shall be made in
generic vegetables. This amounts to 3 vegetables for Ole, for deciding 3
votes, and one for me as officer of agriculture.
###
Fine.
3) A value added vegetable tax is introduced, beginning next turn, and
continuing for future turns until retracted by the officer of agriculture.
The tax is 100%.
###
Meaning that each time someone wants to transfer one Vegetable, they will
have to transfer two. The recipient must then pay the surplus Veggie to the
OoA.
4) Every wednesday morning, a generic vegetable shall be grown for the
foundation.
###
I shall probably need a reminder every now and then.
5) No poison shall be spread by me in the immediate future.
###
Absolutely true, especially if the immediate future ends before first
Monday.
Ole
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| 113 |
From: <aeshna@g...>
Date: Tue Jun 22, 1999 6:11pm
Subject: deNomic Re: Vegetable announcement
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I want a call for judgment on this statement:
'The agriculture officer can choose not to honor the debts of the
foundation.'
Aeshna
----- Original Message -----
From: Rune Kock zarquon@t...
To: deNomic denomic@egroups.com
Sent: 22. maj 1999 18:46
Subject: deNomic Vegetable announcement
As I have now assumed the offices of agriculture and monsanto man, I have
the following announcement:
1) The vegetable-salaries that the foundation illegally failed to pay in
previous weeks are annulled. In other words, the debts of the foundation
are not honoured.
2) Payments due tomorrow, for salaries earned in the period of May 26-30 and
June 20-23, shall be payed by the foundation. The payments shall be made in
generic vegetables. This amounts to 3 vegetables for Ole, for deciding 3
votes, and one for me as officer of agriculture.
3) A value added vegetable tax is introduced, beginning next turn, and
continuing for future turns until retracted by the officer of agriculture.
The tax is 100%.
4) Every wednesday morning, a generic vegetable shall be grown for the
foundation.
5) No poison shall be spread by me in the immediate future.
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| 114 |
From: Ole Andersen <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Tue Jun 22, 1999 6:58pm
Subject: deNomic Call For Judgement 24
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Kira has mad a Call For Judgement on the statement:
'The agriculture officer can choose not to honor the debts of the
foundation.'
I have put the dice server to work.
Ole
----- Original Message -----
From: aeshna@g...
To: denomic@egroups.com
Sent: 22. juni 1999 20:11
Subject: deNomic Re: Vegetable announcement
: I want a call for judgment on this statement:
: 'The agriculture officer can choose not to honor the debts of the
: foundation.'
:
: Aeshna
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: Rune Kock zarquon@t...
: To: deNomic denomic@egroups.com
: Sent: 22. maj 1999 18:46
: Subject: deNomic Vegetable announcement
:
:
: As I have now assumed the offices of agriculture and monsanto man, I have
: the following announcement:
:
: 1) The vegetable-salaries that the foundation illegally failed to pay in
: previous weeks are annulled. In other words, the debts of the foundation
: are not honoured.
:
: 2) Payments due tomorrow, for salaries earned in the period of May 26-30
and
: June 20-23, shall be payed by the foundation. The payments shall be made
in
: generic vegetables. This amounts to 3 vegetables for Ole, for deciding 3
: votes, and one for me as officer of agriculture.
:
: 3) A value added vegetable tax is introduced, beginning next turn, and
: continuing for future turns until retracted by the officer of agriculture.
: The tax is 100%.
:
: 4) Every wednesday morning, a generic vegetable shall be grown for the
: foundation.
:
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| 115 |
From: Dice server <dice-admin@p...>
Date: Tue Jun 22, 1999 7:27pm
Subject: deNomic - Selection of Judge, CFJ 24
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From: Rune Kock <zarquon@t...>
Date: Tue Jun 22, 1999 8:09pm
Subject: deNomic Re: Sv: Vegetable announcement
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| | | | 1) The vegetable-salaries that the foundation illegally failed to pay in previous weeks are annulled. In other words, the debts of the foundation are not honoured. |
I see your refusal to honour the debts of the foundation as a breach of Rule
101.
|
I interpret rule 473 so that the salaries due must be paid on the first Wednesday after they are earned. Thus they are the responsibility of the player who holds the office of agriculture at that time.
I don't believe I am authorized to make payments that don't pertain to my period of office.
Also, I don't accept that the foundation can have a debt at all. If the salaries are not paid, that is clearly a breach of the rules, but that is the end of it; the unpaid salaries don't accumulate as debt. But it would be a good idea to be able to punish the officer, when payments are ignored, cf my new proposal.
| | Kira has mad a Call For Judgement on the statement:
'The agriculture officer can choose not to honor the debts of the foundation.' |
Given my arguments above, I find that the CFJ should be formulated differently in order to be able to settle the matter.
R.
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| 117 |
From: <aeshna@g...>
Date: Wed Jun 23, 1999 6:46am
Subject: deNomic Re: Sv: Vegetable announcement
|
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I chose the wording from your own letter:
"1) The vegetable-salaries that the foundation illegally failed to pay in
previous weeks are annulled. In other words, the debts of the foundation
are not honoured."
Aeshna
----- Original Message -----
From: Rune Kock zarquon@t...
To: denomic@egroups.com
Sent: 22. juni 1999 22:09
Subject: deNomic Re: Sv: Vegetable announcement
>Kira has mad a Call For Judgement on the statement:
>
>'The agriculture officer can choose not to honor the debts of the
>foundation.'
>Given my arguments above, I find that the CFJ should be formulated
differently in order >to be able to settle the matter.
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| 118 |
From: the Speaker <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Wed Jun 23, 1999 12:22pm
Subject: deNomic Distribution of Proposals, 23.06.1999
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+-Distributed now-----------------------------------------+
| Horror Vacui 504 11.05. 07:28 |
| The Streaker 505 11.05. 07:28 |
| The Golden Bear 506 22.06. 18:43 |
| Police Officer 507 22.06. 18:43 |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
+-Ole-----------------------------------------------------+
| Horror Vacui 504 11.05. 07:28 |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
I propose this new rule:
"No Rule numbered higher than 555 may ever exist.
If a rule is ever awarded a number higher than 555, it shall immediately be
renumbered to have the largest otherwise unused number below 556.
If this causes several rules to be renumbered at the same time, they shall
be renumbered in their original numerical order."
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| The Streaker 505 11.05. 07:28 |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
I propose this new rule:
"The Streaker
The Streaker holds the Office of Streaking.
The Streaker is appointed randomly among the Players.
The Streaker is either in Neutral Mode, Hot Mode, or Cold Mode, defaulting
to Neutral Mode.
The Streaker may switch Mode once each Tuesday.
There is a number, known as the Streak Number.
Initially, the Streak Number is 0 (zero).
When The Streaker switches Mode, the Streak Number is set to 0 (zero).
The number of surplus votes on a given proposal is the number of votes on
the winning side, that could have been abstentions instead, without changing
the result of the voting.
When a proposal is adopted, the number of surplus votes is added to the
Streak Number, the result being the new value of the Streak Number.
When a proposal is defeated, the number of surplus votes is deducted from
the Streak Number, the result being the new value of the Streak Number.
If The Streaker is in Hot Mode, he/she may perform a Hot Streak.
If The Streaker is in Cold Mode, he/she may perform a Cold Streak.
A Hot or Cold Streak must be announced on a Thursday.
While performing a Streak, the Office of Streaking casts a number of votes
equal to the absolute value of the Streak Number. Those votes are considered
cast immediately prior to the end of the voting period.
During a Hot Streak, the Office of Streaking votes for all proposals with
all of its votes.
During a Cold Streak, the Office of Streaking votes against all proposals
with all of its votes.
A Streak ends the moment the Office of Streaking votes for a defeated
proposal or against an adopted proposal.
When a Streak ends, The Streaker immediately switches to Neutral Mode."
+-Rune----------------------------------------------------+
| The Golden Bear 506 22.06. 18:43 |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
I propose the following new rule:
"The Golden Bear
Any player who is in possession of a gold-covered panda bear shall gain
twice the number of points he would normally be awarded. Loss of points is
unchanged."
+-Rune----------------------------------------------------+
| Police Officer 507 22.06. 18:43 |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
I propose the following new rule:
"The Police Officer
The Police Officer is a public servant who holds the Office of Punishment.
The Police Officer is elected among the players by a majority vote. His
term of office is 5 turns. He cannot hold any other office. (Being Speaker
is considered an office).
If the Police Officer finds that any player does not do his duty according
to the rules, the Police Officer may fine that player. The amount of the
fine must be reasonable and must be in accordance with current game custom,
but is otherwise decided by the Police Officer.
The player being fined may within one week make a call for judgment that the
fine be declared invalid. Neither the player nor the Police Officer may
serve as judge on the case.
If the player being fined makes no call for judgment, the fine is taken from
him at the end of the previously mentioned week; otherwise it is taken at
the time when the judgment is final.
The Police Officer gets a quarter of the fines payed. If a fine is found
invalid, the Police Officer loses half the amount of the fine."
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| 119 |
From: the Speaker <palnatoke@g...>
Date: Wed Jun 23, 1999 2:50pm
Subject: deNomic Game State Document, 23.06.1999
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The Game State Document consists of:
+-Scorekeeper's Report*
+-Silo Manager's Report*
+-Herald's Report*
+-Distributor's Report*
+-Rulekeeper's Report
+-Court Usher's Report*
+-Addresskeeper's Report**
+-Timekeeper's Report**
*) updates
**) omissions
+-Timekeeper's Report-------------------------------------+
| Time schedule: |
| Sunday 08:00 Beginning of new Turn (end of vote) |
| Monday Monsanto Time |
| Wednesday Distribution Time (beginning of vote) |
| Thursday Tithing Time |
| Thursday 20:00 Taxation Announcement Time (latest) |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
+-Scorekeeper's Report------------------------------------+
| Past winners: |
| Kira won game 1 with 101 points |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Players: |
| Ole 17 points |
| Kira 20 points |
| Rune -12 points |
| Martin 2 points |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Total number of points: 27 points |
| Average number of points: 6,75 points |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Non-Player Voters: |
| Cult of the Ant: 2/3 Vote |
| TOO-BAD: 2/3 Vote |
| The Treehouse Club: 1/3 Vote |
| The Gnomes of Zurich: 1/3 Vote |
| The Nullity: As many Votes as there |
| are zeros in the Prop number |
| Ants ##5,6,7,8,9,10: 1 Vote each |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
+-Silo Manager's Report-----------------------------------+
| Players: |
| Ole: 4 Vegetables |
| Rune: 1 Vegetable |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Corporations: |
| The Gnomes of Zurich: 5 Vegetables |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Agricultural Foundation: |
| 25 Vegetables prior to today |
| +1 Vegetable grown |
| -4 Vegetables paid |
| == |
| 22 Vegetables |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Payments due: |
| Agricultural Foundation to Ole: 17 Vegetables |
| Agricultural Foundation to Kira: 3 Vegetables |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Payments made: |
| Agricultural Foundation to Ole: 3 Vegetables |
| Agricultural Foundation to Rune: 1 Vegetable |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Total number of Player-owned Vegetables: 5 |
| Total number of Corporation-owned Vegetables: 5 |
| Total number of Foundation-owned Vegetables: 22 |
| Total number of Vegetables: 32 |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Tax Shares: |
| Wealth Tax: 0% |
| Income Tax: 0% |
| Poll Tax: 0 Vegetables |
| Value Added Tax: 100% (from Sunday) |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
+-Herald's Report-----------------------------------------+
| Officers: |
| Officer of Agriculture: Rune |
| Monsanto Man: Rune |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Organisations: |
| Cult of the Ant |
| Rune, Ole |
| |
| Teosophy of Overly Objective |
| Bandits And Dreamers (TOO-BAD) |
| Rune, Kira |
| |
| The Treehouse Club Of The Immensely Enlightened |
| Paragons Of Humanity Who Recognize Aeshna |
| As The Supreme Being In The Universe |
| Kira (The Supreme Being In The Universe) |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Corporations: |
| The Gnomes of Zurich |
| Ole |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Silly Players: |
| -none- |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Titles: |
| Zeitgeist: |
| Ole |
| |
| Insistance Points: |
| Ole: 3 Insistance Points |
| Prophets: |
| -none- |
| (except the Martyr) |
| Martyr: |
| Rune |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Positions: |
| Speaker: Ole |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
+-Distributor's Report------------------------------------+
| Distributing 504, 505, 506, 507 |
| Next available proposal number: 508 |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Proposal Queues: In Queue Since: |
| |
| Ole: (20 entries) |
| Transmute 109 11.05. 07:28 |
| No Protos Package 11.05. 07:28 |
| Anti-Ant Package 11.05. 07:28 |
| Repeal 395 11.05. 07:28 |
| Rule Change Package 11.05. 07:28 |
| Elected Offices 11.05. 07:28 |
| Calvinball 13.05. 17:21 |
| Landslide 14.05. 04:40 |
| Amend 334 16.05. 21:55 |
| Communications 16.05. 22:00 |
| Amend 402 17.05. 06:13 |
| Counsel for the Prosecution 17.05. 08:37 |
| Throwing Vegetables at People 18.05. 07:25 |
| Transmute 350 23.05. 08:00 |
| Amend 350 23.05. 08:00 |
| Parallel Tracks 23.05. 08:00 |
| Transmute 350 23.05. 08:00 |
| Transmute 111 23.05. 08:00 |
| Amend 111 23.05. 08:00 |
| Transmute 111 23.05. 08:00 |
| |
| Kira: |
| -no entries- |
| |
| Rune: |
| -no entries- |
| |
| Martin: |
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+-Rulekeeper's Report-------------------------------------+
| Added Rules 499, 500 and 501 to the Ruleset |
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+-Court Usher's Report------------------------------------+
| Voluntary Judges: |
| Rune, Ole, Kira |
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| Active CFJs: |
| 24 'The agriculture officer can choose not to honor the |
| debts of the foundation.' |
| -Called by Kira |
| -Rune appointed as Judge |
| -Judgement to be issued no later than 29.06 21:17 |
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| Decided CFJs: |
| 23 "Rune shall not lose any points related to the |
| defeat of proposal 419 and 420" |
| -Kira judged FALSE |
| -Kira earned 3 Vegetables |
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| Next available CFJ number: 25 |
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+-Addresskeeper's Report----------------------------------+
| Players: |
| Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... |
| Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... |
| Rune Kock, rune@i... |
| Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c... |
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From: Rune Kock <zarquon@t...>
Date: Wed Jun 23, 1999 12:17pm
Subject: deNomic Re: Sv: Sv: Vegetable announcement
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> I chose the wording from your own letter:
>
> "1) The vegetable-salaries that the foundation illegally failed to pay in
> previous weeks are annulled. In other words, the debts of the foundation
> are not honoured."
>
> Aeshna
At the time when I wrote that, while I knew that it was the right thing to
do, I had not yet found the reasons why this was right. Consequently, I
expressed myself rather badly. A more correct formulation would be: I don't
recognize that the foundation has nor is able to have any debt.
R.
>>>Kira has mad a Call For Judgement on the statement:
>>>
>>>'The agriculture officer can choose not to honor the debts of the
>>>foundation.'
>>
>>Given my arguments above, I find that the CFJ should be formulated
>>differently in order to be able to settle the matter.
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