There is no quorum, so the proposal is defeated, and Ole loses 10 points,
but gains an Insistance
Point.


Kira is on the Couch. (She rises and lies down from time to time).

Sum:
For: Ole, Christian
Against: none



The Speaker receives a Vegetable.

Kira collects a Vegetable in North Farm.
Peter collects a Vegetable in North Farm.
Christian collects a Vegetable in East Farm.
Monsanto Man (Martin) spreads his vile poison in Central Square. Each
Veggie-holder* there loses one Veggie.
[My policy here is: the largest group first, and generic before others, and
alphabetically amongst others]
*) Ole and Rune.


Current State:

Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... , Speaker, Cult of the Ant, Zeitgeist, -8
points, ten Insistance Points and two (generic) Vegetables
Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... ,  Citizen, 101 points and fifty-five
(generic) Vegetables
Christian Mønsted, dr@m... , Citizen, -11 points and forty-seven
(generic) Vegetables
Rune Kock, rune@i... , Citizen, Cult of the Ant, holder of the Office of
Agriculture, 54 points, five Insistance Points, three acorns and thirteen
(generic) Vegetables
Peter Gadebirk, gadebirk@p... , Citizen, Ambulant Psychiatrist, -68
points, eleven Insistance Points and thirty-seven (generic) Vegetables,
Silly
Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c...  , Citizen, Monsanto Man, -48 points
Martin Andersen, mva.410@r... , Citizen, -50 points


All are in Central Square, except for
Christian, who is in East Farm, and
Kira and Peter, who are in North Farm.

Total # of points: -20
Average # of points: -2.86


Proposal Queue:

Overturn Judgement 18, Ole, 27/3 20.32
405 'Safe Voting', Rune, 28/3 08.25
Pack406-407 'Selecting a Judge', Rune, 28/3 08.25
406 'Amend 212', Rune, 28/3 08.25
407 'Selecting a Judge, Second Try', Rune, 28/3 08.25
(There is more coming)

Upcoming Events:
28/3    04.00 Martin J must submit a Judgement on CFJ 16.


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: the Speaker palnatoke@g...
Til: Peter Gadebirk gadebirk@p...; Ole hjemme
palnatoke@g...; Martin Plantener Jensen MPJ@c...; Martin
Andersen mva.410@r...; Kira hjemme aeshna@g...; Christian
Mønsted dr@m...; Rune Kock rune@e...
Dato: 15. marts 1999 23:09
Emne: deNomic - Proposal 404 (Timing)


:Proposal for a new rule:
:"Rule 404 - mutable
:Timing
:
:
:A Turn is the basic time unit of deNomic.
:Each turn begins Sunday at 08:00 hours and lasts until the following Sunday
:at 08:00 hours.
:Each player can move within the geography of deNomic once per Turn.
:For the purposes of this Rule, collecting a Vegetable at a Farm constitutes
:a move.
:The prescribed voting period on a proposal starts at the moment that the
:proposal is distributed by the Speaker, and lasts until the end of the Turn
:following the Turn in which the distribution occurred.
:If several proposals are adopted simultaneously, they shall be considered
to
:have been adopted in distribution order.
:For the purposes of Rule 311, a week is a Turn.
:This Rule takes precedence before the Rules 205, 206 and 324."
:
:
:
:Proposed by Ole
:
:
:
:
:
:
:



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Martin A has left the game.

Current State:

Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... , Speaker, Cult of the Ant, Zeitgeist, -8
points, ten Insistance Points and two (generic) Vegetables
Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... ,  Citizen, 101 points and fifty-five
(generic) Vegetables
Christian Mønsted, dr@m... , Citizen, -11 points and forty-seven
(generic) Vegetables
Rune Kock, rune@i... , Citizen, Cult of the Ant, holder of the Office of
Agriculture, 54 points, five Insistance Points, three acorns and thirteen
(generic) Vegetables
Peter Gadebirk, gadebirk@p... , Citizen, Ambulant Psychiatrist, -68
points, eleven Insistance Points and thirty-seven (generic) Vegetables,
Silly
Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c...  , Citizen, Monsanto Man, -48 points



All are in Central Square, except for
Christian, who is in East Farm, and
Kira and Peter, who are in North Farm.

Total # of points: 20
Average # of points: 3.33


Proposal Queue:

Overturn Judgement 18, Ole, 27/3 20.32
405 'Safe Voting', Rune, 28/3 08.25
Pack406-407 'Selecting a Judge', Rune, 28/3 08.25
406 'Amend 212', Rune, 28/3 08.25
407 'Selecting a Judge, Second Try', Rune, 28/3 08.25
Pack408-413 'Formicide', Ole, 22/3 10.48
408 'Repeal 304', Ole, 29/3 10.48
409 'Repeal 327', Ole, 29/3 10.48
410 'Amend 328', Ole, 29/3 10.48
411 'Repeal 363', Ole, 29/3 10.48
412 'Amend 367', Ole, 29/3 10.48
413 'Amend 402', Ole, 29/3 10.48
414 'The Nullity', Ole, 30/3 08.34
415 'Amend 366', Ole, 30/3 10.41




Upcoming Events:
28/3    04.00 Martin J must submit a Judgement on CFJ 16.



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"Rule 107 - immutable
Numbering Proposals


The Speaker shall give each proposed rule change an ordinal number for
reference. The numbers shall begin with 301, and each rule change proposed
in the proper way shall receive the next successive ordinal, whether or not
the proposal is adopted. The effective ordinal number of a rule is the
ordinal number of the most recent change to that rule."


This rule uses 'proposal' and 'proposed rule change' as synonyms. If a
proposal could change more than one rule, several rules would receive the
same number and precendence would become quite messy.


Ole


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: the Speaker palnatoke@g...
Til: Peter Gadebirk gadebirk@p...; Ole hjemme
palnatoke@g...; Martin Plantener Jensen MPJ@c...; Martin
Andersen mva.410@r...; Kira hjemme aeshna@g...; Christian
Mønsted dr@m...; Rune Kock rune@e...
Dato: 20. marts 1999 20:32
Emne: deNomic - Proposal to Overturn Judgement 18


:I propose the Overturn of Judgement 18, since Kira's verdict is in conflict
:with current game custom.
:
:Ole
:
:-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
:Fra: the Speaker palnatoke@g...
:Til: Peter Gadebirk gadebirk@p...; Ole hjemme
:palnatoke@g...; Martin Plantener Jensen MPJ@c...; Martin
:Andersen mva.410@r...; Kira hjemme aeshna@g...; Christian
:Mønsted dr@m...; Rune Kock rune@e...
:Dato: 20. marts 1999 10:15
:Emne: deNomic - Judgements 14, 18, 19, 21
:
:
::Kira has Judged:
::
::-----------------------------------------------------------
::CFJ 14
::
::Statement: "Judgement 3 can be reworded as: 'Rule 204 precludes Ant-owners
::from deciding what their Ant(s) vote.' - answered 'FALSE'" 26. februar
1999
::11:08
::
::Answer: TRUE
::----------------------------------------------------------------
::CFJ 18
::
::Statement: "One proposal can only contain a maximum of one rule change"
12.
::marts 1999 05:35
::
::Answer: FALSE
::--------------------------------------------------------------------
::CFJ 19
::
::Statement: "Judgments are based on the rules that were valid when the
::judgments were called for." 13. marts 1999 08:33
::
::Answer: TRUE
::--------------------------------------------------------------------
::CFJ 21
::
::Statement: "When a statement to be judged relates to a particular
happening
::in the game, the judgment shall be based on the rules that were valid at
::time of the happening in question." 13. marts 1999 08:34
::
::Answer: TRUE
::-------------------------------------------------------------------
::
::For this work, Kira receives 12 (generic) Vegetables.
::
::Current State:
::
::Ole Andersen, palnatoke@g... , Speaker, Cult of the Ant, -38 points,
::eight Insistance Points and four (generic) Vegetables
::Kira Tendal, aeshna@g... ,  Citizen, 101 points and forty-five
::(generic) Vegetables
::Christian Mønsted, dr@m... , Citizen, -11 points and thirty-seven
::(generic) Vegetables
::Rune Kock, rune@i... , Citizen, Cult of the Ant, holder of the Office of
::Agriculture, Ambulant Psychiatrist, 64 points, five Insistance Points,
:three
::acorns and twenty-four (generic) Vegetables, Silly
::Peter Gadebirk, gadebirk@p... , Citizen, -68 points, eleven
::Insistance Points and twenty-seven (generic) Vegetables
::Martin P. Jensen, mpj@c...  , Citizen, Monsanto Man, -48 points
::Martin Andersen, mva.410@r... , Citizen, -50 points
::
::
::All are in Central Square, except for
::Rune, who is in West Farm,
::Christian, who is in East Farm, and
::Kira and Peter, who are in North Farm.
::
::Total # of points: -50
::Average # of points: -7.14
::
::
::Proposal Queue:
::
::395 'Amend 333' (proto 10060), Rune, 20/3 08.28
::396 'One Thing at a Time' (proto 10061), Rune, 20/3 08.28
::397 'The Great Eraser' (proto 10062), Rune, 20/3 08.28
::398 'Amend 358', Ole, 21/3 10.15
::399 'Zeitgeist', Ole, 21/3 10.15
::400 'Keeping the References', Ole, 21/3 10.15
::401 'Unique Rule Titles', Ole, 21/3 19.32
::402 'Amend 319', Ole, 21/3 20.33
::403 'On Hold, Off Hold and Time-Out', Ole, 22/3 03.22
::404 'Timing', Ole, 22/3 23.09
::
::Upcoming Events:
::21/3    04.00    Martin must accept nomination as Judge in CFJ 16.
::28/3    04.00 (or possibly sooner)    Martin must submit a Judgement on
CFJ
::16.
::
::
::
::
::
:
:
:



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Martin has judged the Statement:

"In her letter, Kira has validly retracted all the protoproposals made in
the same letter."

to be TRUE.


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: MPJ@c... MPJ@c...
Til: the Speaker palnatoke@g...
Dato: 25. marts 1999 23:18
Emne: Re: deNomic - Call For Judgement 16



Call For Judgement 16
Judgement:

The Statement:

"In her letter, Kira has validly retracted all the protoproposals made in
the same letter."

is found to be TRUE.

Comment:
The phrase "a protoproposal" refers to any protoproposal in the current
context. I find that in this case that must include all the protoproposals
just proposed.




"the Speaker" palnatoke@g... on 06-03-99 23:35:44

To:   "Rune Kock" rune@i..., "Piet Mertz"
      S980223.Piet.Mertz@H..., "Peter Gadebirk"
      gadebirk@p..., "Ole hjemme" palnatoke@g..., Martin
      Plantener Jensen/LYN/COMPLET, "Kira hjemme" aeshna@g...,
      "Jens Kolberg" jgk@n..., "Christian Mønsted"
      dr@m..., "Martin Andersen" mva.410@r...
cc:
Subject:  deNomic - Call For Judgement 16





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