Common Sense Report 114 - Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:33
Malenkai (Randy Hall)
Result: Accepted
Amend R 970, "Ackanomic/Internomic Interface", as follows:
I. Replace
"
Any Ackanomic Player may request the Liaison to make an InterNomic
Proposal by sending the Proposal to the Liaison. If said Proposal is
adopted by InterNomic, the player who requested it receives 7 points
upon the Ambassador reporting the fact of its adoption to Ackanomic.
"
with:
"
Any Ackanomic Player may request the Liaison to make an InterNomic
Proposal by sending the Proposal to the Liaison. If said Proposal is
adopted by InterNomic, the player who requested it receives 7 points
upon the Liaison reporting the fact of its adoption to Ackanomic.
"
II. Replace "ambassador" with "Liaison" in the fifth paragraph.
Common Sense Report 115 - Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:53
mr cwm (Eric Murray)
Result: retracted
In R313 "Proposal Bribery", insert the word "other" before the phrase
"rule change" in the first sentance. [Currently, the bribe paragraph
must come before any rule change in a proposal. If a bribe were to be
considered a rule change (a description of a game effect) one might
say the bribe paragraph must come before itself, which would violate
Common Sense.]
--------
In R405 "Speaker", replace the first sentance, which currently reads:
"This rule takes precedence over all rules."
with
"This rule takes precedence over all other rules."
as Common Sense would preclude a rule from taking precedence over itself.
Common Sense Report 116 - Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:45
mr cwm (Eric Murray)
Result: accepted
In R313 "Proposal Bribery", insert the word "other" before the phrase
"rule change" in the first sentance of paragraph IV.A. [Currently,
the bribe paragraph must come before any rule change in a proposal.
If a bribe were to be considered a rule change (a description of a
game effect) one might say the bribe paragraph must come before
itself, which would violate Common Sense.]
--------
In R405 "Speaker", replace the first sentance, which currently reads:
"This rule takes precedence over all rules."
with
"This rule takes precedence over all other rules."
as Common Sense would preclude a rule from taking precedence over itself.
Common Sense Report 117 - Tue, 29 Jul 1997 01:09
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: accepted; two-star objected at Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:54:12
In Rule 419.2 VI. delete the second and third sentences and replace them
with: "Any player may join this Institution by posting a public message
stating they are doing so. Any player may leave this Institution by
posting a public message saying they are doing so."
two-star's Comment:
The real problem, IMO, is that since the rule change is not retroactive,
the membership of PCI will still be filled with players who will have
posted an odd number of messages between the passage of p2246 and the
acceptance of csr 117.
Common Sense Report 118 - Sat, 16 Aug 1997 09:46
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: accepted
Ammend Rule 419.2 by adding the following text to the end of the rule:
{{The current members of the People's Council for Internomic are those
players who have declared in a public message that they are joining
the People's Council for Internomic, or words to that effect, and only
those players.}}
Common Sense Report 119 - Fri 5 Sep 1997 19:03
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: accepted
Ammend Rule 340 by replacing the word misspelled with the string:
mispelled
Common Sense Report 120 - Sat 27 Sep 1997 20:21:28
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: mr cwm and Malenkai objected by Mon 29 Sep 1997 18:04:29
Renumber Rule 2283 Viva la Revolution to 1090.
Renumber Rule 1317 Codex of Kra to 1310.
Renumber Rule 1311 If we don't need gravity, we'd better have pressure to
1312.
Renumber Rule 1309 We don't need Gravity to 1311.
Renumber Rule 1319 Round Earth Restoration Society to 1315.
In Rule 2290 Flat Earth Preservation Society, replace the first occurance
in the third paragraph of the phrase Round Earth Restoration Society with
the phrase Flat Earth Preservation Society. Also replace all occurances
of the the string R1319 with R1315. Then renumber Rule 2290 to 1316.
Renumber Rule 1320 This is the way the world ends to 1317.
Renumber Rule 1313 Tornado to 1320.
mr cwm's Comment:
Oh, I object! That mess in R2290 was the only reason I voted for it.
What better way to preserve the Earth's beloved flatness?
Malenkai's Comment:
I object to this CSR as well. My reasoning is completely different :-)
Common Sense Report 121 - Thu 27 Nov 1997 00:53:00
Malenkai (Randy Hall)
Result: Accepted
Renumber rule 390, "The Orange Menace", to 1135.
Common Sense Report 122 - Wed 10 Dec 1997 01:40:38
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: Accepted
Amend section VI of Rule 505 by replacing the phrase "of A it" with "of A$
it"
Amend section C. of Rule 1213 by replacing "willbecome" with "will become"
Amend Rule 1240.1 section III. b. by replacing "theRuneMaker" with "the
RuneMaker". Also, in section III. g. replace "OTzma" with "Otzma"
Rename Rule 520 to "Auction them Entities" {{[rather than Auction then
Entities, although that would be an interesting thing to see...]}}
Common Sense Report 123 - Wed 10 Dec 1997 02:02:08
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: Accepted; Slakko objected at Wed 10 Dec 1997 04:41:42
In Rule 594.16, place a double quotation mark immediately before the
first occurance of the word They" in the last paragraph.
In Rule 594.15, replace the word Widget with Frobnotzer.
In Rule 594.1 place an open parenthesis symbol immediately before the
first occurance of the word which.
Slakko's Comment:
I object to this CSR. It is possible that other types of Frobnotzer
besides the Pyraic could be created later, turning this into an
ambiguous reference. I would not object if Widget was replaced with
Pyraic Frobnotzer.
Common Sense Report 124 - Tue 16 Dec 1997 01:23:22
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: Accepted
Amend Rule 709 Gaol by replacing the phrase "R655 (Treasury and Hard
Money)" with "R505 (Treasury and AckaDollars)" {{[Anyone know how old that
line is?]}}.
Amend Rule 711 Appeal for Pardon by deleting section 3) {{[Redundant]}}.
Renumber Rule 713 Crime to 701.
Common Sense Report 125 - Wed 14 Jan 1998 15:46 EST
Slakko (Duncan Richer)
Result: Accepted
Insert ", unless otherwise specified" before the final full stop in
section 2E of Rule 1230.1.
{{[This ensures that the change listed in Pawn Flick will actually have an
effect other than to reduce everyone's piece allowance by 1.]}}
Delete sections (i) and (ii) of Part 8 of Rule 1230.2.
Amend section (iii) of Part 8 of Rule 1230.2 so that it reads:
"(iii) The Sucker transfers A$100 to the SneakThief. If the Sucker has
insufficient cash, then all eir $A will be transferred to the SneakThief,
and the Sucker is said to have Lost Eir Shirt."
Relabel sections (iii) and (iv) of Part 8 of Rule 1230.2 to sections (i)
and (ii) respectively.
{{[This eliminates the PFBonds language while not affecting the result of
the application of the rule.]}}
Replace all instances of "has not a Free For All" with "has not been a
Free For All" in Rule 1230.2 Part 9.
Common Sense Report 126 - Sun 1 Feb 1998 23:27 EST
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: Malenkai and else...if objected by Mon 2 Feb 1998 16:38 EST
{{[In this this CSR, all quotation marks are delimiters only.]}}
Delete the following text from the second to last paragraph of Rule 217:
"Members of a Jury that ruled on a CFJ may not appeal that CFJ, neither
can the Judge, Prosaecutor and Consaecutor of that CFJ."
Amend the second paragraph of Rule 348 by replacing "to one" with "to
match one"
In Rule 408, delete the text "; the time of these reports is deemed to be
the time indicated by the message's initial timestamp" {{[Redundant]}}
from section c). Also delete the text "(except duty (b) below)" from
section d).
Add the following text to the end of the first paragraph of Rule 212, and
then delete it from Rule 417: "Supreme Court Justices and acting Supreme
Court Justices are ineligible to be selected to judge CFJs."
Replace the last word of Rule 929, "entities", with "garments"
In Rule 1240.1, section III sub-section 1., replace the "Cards created in
any period" with "Cards created by the RuneMaker in any period" {{[So as
to conform with what we are actually doing]}} In sub-section 2., delete
"any Institution,"
In the first paragraph of Rule 1240.6, replace "player to play" with
"player to pay" and "pays the names amount" with "pays the named amount".
Malenkai's Comment:
I object to this CSR. If proposal 2673 passes, this amendment will
clash somewhat with the rework of rule 212. More importantly,
if this CSR goes through before 2673 (possibly) passes (and it is
scheduled to), 2673 will make a mess, by only partially working.
I encourage someone else to object as well, and then try again after
the fate of 2673 is known.
else...if's Comment:
Sure. I object to CSR 126.
Common Sense Report 127 - Mon 2 Feb 1998 22:03 EST
Alfvaen (Aaron Humphrey)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 2654, "Prolix Propositions", to 207.5.
{{[ While I'm at it, and while I still have renumbering abilities,
let me try to fix some of the rules that Slakko was unable to give
the sub-rule numbers he wanted in the Party Chess suite... ]}}
Renumber Rule 1230.22, "Stabitooum", to 1230.30.
Renumber Rule 1230.23, "Winning a Hand", to 1230.40.
Renumber Rule 1230.24, "Party Chess Piece Gess", to 1230.22.
Common Sense Report 128 - Tue 3 Feb 1998 00:50 EST
Vynd (John McCoy)
Result: accepted
Amend Rule 1044 Swingpoints by adding the following OUCH delimited text as
a seperate paragraph, appearing before any other text in the Rule.
OUCH
Swingpoints are tradeable entities. Swingpoints may only be created as
described by the Rules. Whenever the Rules call for someone or something
to recieve Swingpoints, and does not specify where those Swingpoints are
to come from, then new Swingpoints equal to the number owed that recipient
are created in its possession, and it is considered to have received its
Swingpoints.
OUCH
Delete section 3 of Rule 1044, and renumber section 4 to 3, and section 5
to 4.
Common Sense Report 129 - Fri 13 Feb 1998 22:44 EST
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 2682 ("The Chocolate Frog") to 1140.
Common Sense Report 130 - Sat 21 Feb 1998 15:27 EST
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 2716 "La grande fromage" to 611.
Common Sense Report 131 - Sun 15 Mar 1998 07:46 EST
The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
Modify rule 1250.19 (Word un-association) to replace:
" If e fails to do so within three days of the start of the round then e
loses three gamepoints and the round ends immediately.
All Confused must then try to find a word to link the original word and the
announced word."
with:
"If e fails to do so within three days of the start of the round (that is,
when the referee announces the results of the previous round) then e loses
three gamepoints and the round ends immediately.
All Confused must then try to find a word to link the original word and the
announced word and post it to the referee."
Common Sense Report 132 - Wed 18 Mar 1998 17:01 EST
The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
Amend Rule 212 by replacing the first occurrence of:
remaining pool
with:
remaining pool of players eligible to judge CFJs
{{[Some people found this unclear]}}
Further amend Rule 212 by replacing:
"the other active players"
with:
"the active voting players eligible to judge CFJs"
{{[In the remainder of this CSR, all quotation marks are delimiters
only.]}}
Amend the second paragraph of Rule 348 by replacing "to one" with "to
match one"
In Rule 408, delete the text "; the time of these reports is deemed to be
the time indicated by the message's initial timestamp" {{[Redundant]}}
from section c). Also delete the text "(except duty (b) below)" from
section d).
Replace the last word of Rule 929, "entities", with "garments"
In Rule 421 replace all occurrences of "CSSR" with "CSRR".
In the first paragraph of Rule 1240.6, replace "player to play" with
"player to pay" and "pays the names amount" with "pays the named amount".
In rule 1250.13 replace "A round lasts three days after this announcement."
with "A round lasts three days after this announcement or until all players
have submitted a move, whichever is sooner."
In rule 593.4 replace "A$7" with "A$8" {{[The price to buy a magic radish]}}
In rule 344 replace "broad and obfuscate" with "broad or obfuscate"
Common Sense Report 133 - Mon 30 Mar 1998 14:19 EST
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 2785 ("The Great Sphere Probe") to 1340.
Renumber Rule 2789 ("Societies") to 1004.
{{[Give your rules numbers!]}}
Common Sense Report 134 - Mon 06 Apr 1998 22:26 EDT
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 2802 ("The Color Black") to 1307.1.
{{[Sigh. Proposal 2802 attempted to create a Rule 1340; however,
Rule 1340 already exists, thanks to my CSR 133, which I submitted
hours after distributing Proposal 2802. Don't I feel stupid now?
Boy, I hope this doesn't leave a black mark on my record....]}}
Common Sense Report 135 - Sat 11 Apr 1998 12:38 EDT
The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
Modify rule 594.21 by deleting the text "I am using one of my scientist for a
day otzma cards and paying the required fee to make the following discovery
for a Good Ballot Stuffer: " and by changing all occurrences of the string
"an GBS" with the string "a GBS".
Modify rule 594.14 to read in full:
"The Cheez-Whiz is a small pyramid. 3 of its sides are white, whilst the 4th
is black. A Cheez-Whiz will transfer all of its owner's Ackadollars to the
Treasury if its owner legally chews the Gumball. If all the Cheez-Whiz's
owner's Ackadollars are transferred to the treasury in this way then the
owner of the Cheez-Whiz may specify any individual cheese to be destroyed.
The cheese in question will then be destroyed. This power of the Cheez-Whiz
may only be utilised once per day. It is said that the Cheez-Whiz can also be
used to help find long lost Treasure.
All sentences that follow this one are, or describe, attributes of
grapefruit, and they conflict with this one. "
Swap around the order of the last two paragraphs of rule 594.4.
Add to the end of section c in rule 530 the text "At the end of
each Acka day, one second after the loss of an eighth of a point, the
activity value will be rounded to the nearest tenth."
Replace "Every three hours the activity value will decrease by 1/8
of a point" in rule 530 with "At twelve, three, six, nine (a.m. and p.m.)
the activity value will decrease by 1/8 of a point"
Modify rule 421.1 by replacing all occurrences of the string "CSSR" with the
string "CSRR"
Common Sense Report 136 - Mon 11 May 1998 06:03 EDT
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 2889 ("Otzma Card of Type Founder's Boon") to 1240.19
{{[what proposal 2979 intended to do]}}.
Renumber Rule 2967 ("Admissions Policies") to 1007.1 {{[from TGW's
recent proposal which almost specified a rule number but didn't]}}.
Common Sense Report 137 - Thu 14 May 1998 06:31 EDT
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 2997 ("Trusts") to 1017 [from else...if's proposal which
specified a number already in use]. Renumber Rule 3008 ("Quarantine")
to 1389 [from TGW's proposal which didn't specify any number].
Common Sense Report 138 - Thu 14 May 1998 17:58 EDT
The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
Remove the text "AtP" from rule 1302
In rule 1213 replace the text:
"ii. If B had a herd of two or more donkeys at the start of the round, during
the noise and confusion of the grab one of B's donkeys will become terrified
and flee into the Wilds of Ackanomic (where it will graze peacefully,
returning to the Game Box at the conclusion of Grab-a-Donkey). B's herd is
reduced by two at the end of the round. "
with the text:
"ii. If B had a herd of two or more donkeys at the start of the round, during
the noise and confusion of the grab one of B's donkeys will become terrified
and flee into the Wilds of Ackanomic (where it will graze peacefully,
returning to the Game Box at the conclusion of Grab-a-Donkey). B's herd is
reduced by two at the end of the round.
iii. If B only had a herd of one donkey then the size of her herd is reduced
by 1 [i.e. she is removed from the game]."
In rule 1003 replace "inan" with "in an".
In rule 1230.2 replace "capturedis" with "captured is" if such is possible
[Alfvaen asked me to do this ages ago and I have only now got round to doing
it. I don't have a copy of the chess rules handy so I can't check if this is
still there.]
In rule 594.6 replace "rule 1364" with "rule 854".
Common Sense Report 139 - Sun 17 May 1998 09:51 EDT
The Gingham Wearer (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
Delete the last sentence of section 3) of rule 1060 [This organisation will
require a trade licence to be of any use] [I can't quote it directly because
it's in square brackets] including the notes brackets in which it is
contained [just to be on the safe side].
Replace the text "b. Change membership policy " in rule 1003 with the text
"b. Change admissions policy ". In the same rule replace " is the average of
orgsim(A, B) and orgsim(B, A)." with is the average (mean) of orgsim(A, B)
and orgsim(B, A).
Append the following text to rule 1020 immediately before the full stop of
the first sentence: " which is an unownable entity"
Common Sense Report 140 - Tue 19 May 1998 21:18 EDT
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 3048 ("Feuds") to 1216. [Please vote for Proposal 3061.]
Common Sense Report 141 - Wed 20 May 1998 04:17 EDT
Slakko (Duncan Richer)
Result: accepted
Amend Rule 1230.1 by replacing the quoted text
"An on-board piece is in a Defensive Position if the distance between
that piece a friendly King is equal to or smaller than 4."
with the quoted text
"An on-board piece is in a Defensive Position if the distance between
that piece and a friendly King is equal to or smaller than 4."
[Thanks to Niccolo for pointing out this bug, and apologies to him for
having to send him the CSR twice.]
Common Sense Report 142 - Tue 02 Jun 1998 04:32 EDT
breadbox (Brian Raiter)
Result: accepted
Renumber Rule 1400 ("Who Will Buy K 2") to 1352.
Renumber all rules with a base number of 1399 so as to have a base
number of 1390 (any sub numbers remain unaltered).
{{[This will leave a small buffer so that any more weird rule
creations will still fit into the 1300s.]}}
Common Sense Report 143 - Fri 26 Jun 1998 17:40 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: saaremaa and JT objected by Fri 26 Jun 1998 18:02 EDT
In rule 611 replace the phrase "achieve a winning condition" with
"lose all their A$ and have the number of cycles they have won reduced
to 0".
{{[Note: I very much doubt this will get through, I'm just trying to
see how committed the scammers are.]}}
saaremaa's Comment:
I object to this CSR. I am neutral w.r.t to the scam, but always object
to CSRs that substantially change the way the game is played.
JT's Comment:
I object to this CSR.
Common Sense Report 144 - Tue 28 Jul 1998 20:11 EDT
JT (JT Traub)
Result: accepted
Add the Artist: Vernor Vinge (Author of True Names) to the Literature
List
Common Sense Report 145 - Fri 07 Aug 1998 12:47 EDT
Atilla the Pun (Micah Smukler)
Result: Vynd (John McCoy) and IdiotBoy objected by Fri 07 Aug 1998 13:11 EDT
Add the following STUFF-delimited entries to the Literature List:
STUFF
Artist: Aeschylus
Artist: Jerome K. Jerome; author of Three Men in a Boat
Artist: Tom Lehrer; satirist
Artist: Douglas Hofstadter
Artist: Peter Suber; the Nomic guy
Artist: Edgar Allen Poe
Artist: Robert A. Heinlein
Artist: Herman Melville
Artist: Julius Caesar
Work: The Declaration of Independence of the United States of America
Work: The Oxford English Dictionary
Work: On Formally Undecidable Propositions in _Principia Mathematica
and related systems; Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem
STUFF
Vynd's Comment:
I object to this CSR. I don't think its a good idea to have a Dictionary
as Literature.
IdiotBoy's Comment:
<AOL>
Me, too.
</AOL>
Common Sense Report 146 - Tue 18 Aug 1998 11:14 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: IdiotBoy and 867-5309 objected by Tue 18 Aug 1998 14:56 EDT
In rule 1240.20 (Otzma Card of Type Roulette Wheel) replace "Deterministic
Method" with "Probabalistic Method"
[As JT pointed out the runemaker could pick a card at its instance limit to
just destroy the card]
----
In rule 1240.17 (Otzma Card of type Arctic Explorer) replace the text
"description[that is, an entity with the word "Ice Pick" in its name],
then" with the text "description (that is, an entity with the word "Ice
Pick" in its name), then".
----
Renumber rule 845 (Map of the City ) to 846
Renmuber rule 844 (Here There Be Dragons) to 845
Renumber rule 1390.4 (Maps) to 844
----
Ammend rule 721 by replacing "a player to lose currency during the first
three weeks of eir being a new player" with "a newbie to lose currency".
IdiotBoy's Comment:
I object to this CSR.
867-5309's Comment:
As do I.
Common Sense Report 147 - Fri 21 Aug 1998 05:18 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: accepted
All Ackanomic documents, except the rules, that were amended by
Proposal 3383 are modified so as to be identical to their state prior
to Proposal 3383's modification and all amendments applied subsequent
to Proposal 3383 are reapplied in order.
Common Sense Report 148 - Mon 24 Aug 1998 05:41 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: (Slakko objected at Mon 24 Aug 1998 06:53 EDT)
(The following three changes are of the form "Rule number, current
text in that rule -> text the currnt text should be changed to with
double quotes acting only as delimiters).
Rule 205, "before the score change" -> "before the rule change".
Rule 1301, "asspecified" -> "as specified"
Rule 1390, "Miscellanous" -> "Miscellaneous"
-----
Amend Section V "Upon Becoming (and while) Vacationing" of Rule 250
(Players and Player States) by replacing the phrase "Players who gone on
Vacation voluntarily" with "Players who go on Vacation voluntarily"
Amend section iii of Rule 403 (Functional Offices, Commonalties) by
replacing the phrase "for a Functional Office vacated by vacation." with
"for a Functional Office whose encumberant is on Vacation."
Amend Rule 370 (No E-mail, No Game) by replacing the phrase "A player
inactivated" in the second paragraph with "A player put on Vacation".
[P3451 will fix this if it passes].
[JT's proposal will prolly fix these anyway?]
Amend Section 8 of Rule 1250.23 (Eleusis) by replacing :
the phrase "When a player goes vacationing," in its first sentance with
"When a player goes on Vacation".
the phrase "If a player goes vacationing" in its second sentence with
"If a player goes on Vacation".
the sentance [4th] "If the player going vacationing is the Deus, they
must notify their substitute of the secret rule before they go
vacationing." with "If Deus goes on Vacation, they must notify their
substitute of the secret rule before they go on Vacation.".
the phrase "When a player is vacationing," in the final sentene with
"While a player is on Vacation,".
[I might try to repeal this, but for the present I'll just fix it]
Amend Rule 594.24 (Blueprint: Finger of Justice) by replaceing the first
paragraph with:
A Finger of Justice is a life-size replica of the index finger from the
left hand of the Brass Monkey. It exists in three mutually
exclusive states: vacationing, active and quiescent. When created it is
in the vacationing state.
Slakko's Comment:
I object to this CSR. The word "encumberant" in the above paragraph
should properly be "incumbent".
Common Sense Report 149 - Mon 24 Aug 1998 17:58 EDT
Mr. Tambourine Man (Tom Walmsley)
Result: IdiotBoy and Rex Mundi objected by Mon 24 Aug 1998 19:40 EDT
Repeal the following:
Rule 594.6
Rule 594.8
Rule 594.11
Rule 594.12
Rule 594.15
[These were K 2's attempted debunks which were accepted. I believe that
this mirrors the intent of the voting populace. Whilst I'm sure a lot of
people would rather not see all these go (myself included) I would hope
that people would not object to this unless they feel my presumption that
the voting masses want to see these proposals gone.]
IdiotBoy's Comment:
I object to this CSR.
Rex Mundi's Comment:
As do I.
Common Sense Report 150 - Wed 26 Aug 1998 12:36 EDT
K 2 (Kelly Kelly)
Result: accepted
Add forment and hrumph to the Ackanomic Lexicon
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